- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Jordan's Stats from the last five games of the season...
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:01 pm to MJM
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:01 pm to MJM
quote:
no it screams of everything we've had to sit through the last few years, the atrocious qb play, the stagnant offense, the bonehead clock management issues. We finally have something enjoyable to watch, we finally have a competent qb that can get plays off in time and people dont want to see us regress and go back to same shite we've seen when JJ was the leader of this offense.
dude we looked like that with Lee at qb from 08-10.
So it has nothing to do with new coach, better team overall?
0
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:01 pm to MJM
quote:Let me guess, you thought JL should've played more back in 09 and 10?
no it screams of everything we've had to sit through the last few years, the atrocious qb play, the stagnant offense, the bonehead clock management issues. We finally have something enjoyable to watch, we finally have a competent qb that can get plays off in time and people dont want to see us regress and go back to same shite we've seen when JJ was the leader of this offense.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:01 pm to NaturalBeam
quote:
The only people going nuts right now are the JL guys who have finally gotten their chance and will stop at nothing to keep it
Jesus christ. This one post is so full of delusion....
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:01 pm to just me
quote:
bullshite. It's irrelevant where Jefferson was early in 2010 just like it's irrelevant where Lee was in 2008 and 2009. Neither QB is the QB they used to be.
You compare their most recent performance. You compare their last four games:
Compare LSU's last four games last year (Jefferson's most recent games) to LSU's first four games this year (Lee's most recent games):
That is a really rich argument. The frame of reference is irrelevant, hell, it is basically pointless to try to compare season-to-season stats for players anyway.
It is pretty much expected that a player should improve as the season goes along and I am not arguing that JJ didn't play better in his last 4 games. However, it is mind boggling that he did play better his last 4 games and still ended up #100 in QB rating. I would be willing to bet that Lee will put up better numbers in his last 4 games this season than he has in the 1st 4.
If you want to base your argument on stats, at least do it in an honest and relevant fashion. Also, I still think 4-0 vs. 3-1 is a better stat to use
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I've read the board since last night. You're way off.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:02 pm to dgnx6
quote:
how many of those TDs came in the one game he didn't have Crowton holding him back?
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:02 pm to dgnx6
quote:
so JJ should be back on the team,
Absolutely.
quote:
and he should play if he is needed down the stretch
Needed being the operative word.
quote:
. Do you not agree with that?
I do. At some point you have to groom next years QB as well. If not, the bitching next year aobut a QB with no SEC experience will be monumental.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:04 pm to NaturalBeam
quote:
I've read the board since last night. You're way off.
You should have read this board more than last night. You are delusional. There is a distinct group of JJ fans, and a distinct group of Lee fans. Both are fricking stupid and neither are "LSU fans."
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:04 pm to steelreign
quote:
56-87 for 624 yards with a 64% completion percentage, 6TD/1INT and only 3 sacks in 4 games
What doesn't show here is JL12 and the leadership he provides, such as not pouting and encouraging a WR for a drop instead of berating him. I like what JJ brings as a run option, but this is Lees team.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:07 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
how many of those TDs came in the one game he didn't have Crowton holding him back?
So Crowton made JJ under throw, over throw and throw behind his WR's last year.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:08 pm to NaturalBeam
quote:
I think we've definitely been in some spots where we could've benefitted from a mobile qb.
He's really not a good designed runner. His best runs come when the pocket breaks down.
He had one 80 yard run and all of the sudden he is the second coming of Vince Young.
Hell, he stinks at running the option.
Come on...why mess with a good thing?
If Lee gets hurt, I can understand bringing him in. But until then, he needs to be holding a clipboard unless we are up by 4-5 touchdowns or the game has been decided.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
There is a distinct group of JJ fans, and a distinct group of Lee fans.
And apparently there is a one member group of the "Gary Crowton is a fricking idiot" club.
FWIW, we're currently taking applications.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:09 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
And apparently there is a one member group of the "Gary Crowton is a fricking idiot" club
Something we all should be able to agree on!
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:10 pm to rds dc
quote:You crawfish faster than . . . a crawfish.
The frame of reference is irrelevant, hell, it is basically pointless to try to compare season-to-season stats for players anyway.
quote:Right. He did improve. He did not regress. Defenses improve as the season goes on too. Jefferson was playing against improvin defenses.
It is pretty much expected that a player should improve as the season goes along and I am not arguing that JJ didn't play better in his last 4 games.
quote:frick you. It's as honest and relevant as any comparison available. Would you like to compare Jefferson 7 passing TDs to 1 Int in his first four games in 2009? How about his 791 total yards in the same timeframe? Do you want me to use Lee's 2008 and/or 2009 performances?
If you want to base your argument on stats, at least do it in an honest and relevant fashion.
No?
Right, I didn't think so. If I wanted to use better comparative numbers, I could have.
I used both QBs most recent performances because that is what best describes their current abilities.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:10 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
And apparently there is a one member group of the "Gary Crowton is a fricking idiot" club.
FWIW, we're currently taking applications.
Not sure I am totally ready for member ship, but I could go for the "Crowton is incompetent" club. Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:11 pm to slapahoe
quote:
So Crowton made JJ under throw, over throw and throw behind his WR's last year
First, every college QB has overthrows, underthrows, and throws behind the WRs.
Lee has had these more than a few times this season.
Under Crowton's offense, our WR never got separation making our QBs have to put the ball in small windows. Add this to the fact that we constantly ran comeback routes which are difficult on WRs and you're going to have a problem.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:12 pm to dgnx6
These stats are meaningless, the guy will not be throwing the ball
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Uhh, yeah. I'm aware of that. But it wasn't the JJ fans that were calling for JJ to never see the field again, was it? No that would be the JL fans who are deathly afraid what might happen if another QB gets snaps.
You should have read this board more than last night. You are delusional. There is a distinct group of JJ fans, and a distinct group of Lee fans. Both are fricking stupid and neither are "LSU fans."
I never denied the existence of JJ fans, but how are they relevant to my statement?
Count me in Antonio Moss' club btw...
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I hear you. I agree that Mett would benefit from experience. However, if Lee gets hurt in any one of the next eight/nine games, the same argument applies to Jefferson in that he needs to get back up to speed.
I do. At some point you have to groom next years QB as well. If not, the bitching next year aobut a QB with no SEC experience will be monumental.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:14 pm to just me
quote:
Jefferson was playing against improvin defenses.
So the defenses for Ole Miss, Arkansas and Texas A&M were really improving and good?
I'll give you Bama, where he was spectacular, but come on...Ole Miss and Arkansas stunk on D. Hell, Jefferson was pitiful against Arkansas. If we had competent offensive playcalling and QB play in that game, we win by two touchdowns.
Page 5 of 11
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News