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re: John Morton to LSU as WR/Passing Game Coordinator?

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Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:00 pm to
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God bless the Tiger Rant


"Nah."
~God
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:00 pm to
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He had good reason too? Explain. Orgeron knows jack shite about running an offense. He isn’t qualified to run an offense. Are you telling me that the owner of a pharmaceutical company should go in and meddle with the chemicals even though he has no background in chemistry just because he’s the boss?


People don't get this.

Sure the boss has the authority to do whatever he wants but having the authority doesn't confer the expertise to do so.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:01 pm to
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The LSU head coach inserted himself into the offense, defying a pledge he made last fall in a campaign to land the full-time job. He invoked changes to offensive coordinator Matt Canada’s unit, tweaks that were visible during the first half of Saturday’s loss against Troy.

He’s stepping back now, the coach suggested in his weekly news conference with reporters.


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“I wanted to simplify only the shifts in motions. I knew we were going to start two freshmen (offensive) linemen, so I wanted the guys to be in place so we knew how to block them,” Orgeron said. “That's all I've ever done. This is Matt's offense. He runs it. He calls it. He scripts the plays. This is his offense.”


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“That's totally up to Matt,” Orgeron answered when asked which offense LSU will move forward with. “I'm going to leave that totally up to him. And, again, I will say this, I stepped in last time for the first time. And I wanted to simplify things in order for us to have less penalties, better execution.

“At halftime, he felt like he needed to shift and motion more, which he did. And that's totally his option,” Orgeron continued. “This is totally his offense.



This should put it all to rest. O was perfectly justified in asking for a simplification of the offense.

Had they all just worked together instead of having a falling out we wouldn't be having this conversation now.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:01 pm to
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He was wrong then. It was painfully obvious


Who are you to say he was wrong?
Posted by DesenselessPlayer
Member since Oct 2018
299 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:02 pm to
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Basically at a certain point Canada mailed it in. Yet Canada is a hero on this board. Insane.


Nobody said he’s a “hero”. He’s just better than Ensminger and many of us would have liked to have seen what an unhandcuffed Canada could have done with LSU players.
Would we win a championship with him? I can’t say. But remember. From the Opologists own words. “A coach needs time to implement his system”.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260958 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:02 pm to
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but having the authority doesn't confer the expertise to do so.


What exactly happened since you know? What were the dynamics?

You seem to know so much
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:02 pm to
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What exactly happened since you know? What were the dynamics?

You seem to know so much



The head coach told us what happened. Read what he said after the Troy game.
Posted by DesenselessPlayer
Member since Oct 2018
299 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:03 pm to
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Are you shitting your depends yet?


He may be. But we do know Ensminger shite the bed many times on offense this season.
Posted by DesenselessPlayer
Member since Oct 2018
299 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:05 pm to
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I can tell you've never supervised anyone


Many times. I don’t mind constructive criticisms. It helps me be a better supervisor.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260958 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:06 pm to
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head coach told us what happened. Read what he said after the Troy game.


Tell me how this meeting went? Tia

Knowing 5% of s situation yet totally believing some fable you've created is pretty ridiculous
Posted by DesenselessPlayer
Member since Oct 2018
299 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:06 pm to
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Insecure bosses are the dictatorial types that aren't open to doing things a different way. They aren't comfortable with not being the absolute authority in every aspect of the operation.


Yep. And I would never work for a boss like that. My time and education was is far too valuable for me to have to deal with someone like that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260958 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:06 pm to
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Many times. I don’t mind constructive criticisms. It helps me be a better supervisor.


And at times, employees need an intervention
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 5:10 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260958 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:08 pm to
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And I would never work for a boss like that. 


You've never been involved with sports at a high level

The most successful ones are assholes
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:08 pm to
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Tell me how this meeting went? Tia

Knowing 5% of s situation yet totally believing some fable you've created is pretty ridiculous



Read what the head coach said after the Troy game. He admitted to altering Canada's offense. What more do I have to say?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260958 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:09 pm to
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Read what the head coach said after the Troy game. He admitted to altering Canada's offense. What more do I have to say?


You're melting down over it.

Posted by DesenselessPlayer
Member since Oct 2018
299 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:09 pm to
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This should put it all to rest. O was perfectly justified in asking for a simplification of the offense. Had they all just worked together instead of having a falling out we wouldn't be having this conversation now.



I agree that both Canada and Orgeron are to blame. They are adults and should have been able to make it work.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260958 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:10 pm to
Orgerons mistake was hiring Canada
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 5:11 pm
Posted by DesenselessPlayer
Member since Oct 2018
299 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:11 pm to
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You've never been involved with sports at a high level The most successful ones are a-holes


I have not. And yeah, most probably are. But even Saban lets his offensive coordinator do his thing. There are no documented cases of him meddling in the offense and he’s one of the biggest assholes in college sports.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260958 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:12 pm to
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But even Saban lets his offensive coordinator do his thing


Ask Lane kiffin
Posted by DesenselessPlayer
Member since Oct 2018
299 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:13 pm to
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And at times, employees need an intervention


This can be true. But when the employee knows more about a specific part of the business than the boss does, the boss really shouldn’t question him.
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