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Posted on 1/17/22 at 1:11 pm to StAugFLTiger
2018 burrow had never played real college football
See, I watched Joe play at Ohio state, in "real college games". I was impressed with him then. LINK /
Burrow was in Baton Rouge by Summer of 2018. He signed May 21, 2018. Its not like he showed up the week before the season started. LINK /
No argument there. In fact, he had a solid season in 2018. But without Joe Brady in 2019, he doesnt have a heisman season. YES. He was a good QB before he arrived in baton rouge. But
IF he doesnt lose the job at Ohio State, AND
iF he doesnt get a Joe-Brady-like OC in 2019,
THEN we might never know how good he could be.
We usually don't find out that a QB is Elite, without an Elite OC. We can see their potential, but without the right OC (and offensive system) it usually remains potential.
Dak does not have one.
Show me a fan who feels the need to compare its former players to other guys, and I'll show you a fan who only watches LSU.
If you think that Burrow's story is the same without Brady, youre the one thats clueless. Trevor Lawrence has shown the potential to be an Elite NFL QB. Without a better OC (ie offensive system), its just potential.
Show me an ELITE QB, and I'll show a QB with a very good OC. YES you still need to have the talent.
EXAMPLES
Aaron Rodgers - Nathaniel Hackett
Tom Brady - Josh McDaniels
Josh Allen - Brian Daboll
Patrick Mahomes - Andy Reid/Eric Beieniemy
Matthew Stafford - Sean McVay/Kevin O'Connell
See, I watched Joe play at Ohio state, in "real college games". I was impressed with him then. LINK /
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was a late arrival to team
Burrow was in Baton Rouge by Summer of 2018. He signed May 21, 2018. Its not like he showed up the week before the season started. LINK /
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by the last few games of the season burrow came on strong
No argument there. In fact, he had a solid season in 2018. But without Joe Brady in 2019, he doesnt have a heisman season. YES. He was a good QB before he arrived in baton rouge. But
IF he doesnt lose the job at Ohio State, AND
iF he doesnt get a Joe-Brady-like OC in 2019,
THEN we might never know how good he could be.
We usually don't find out that a QB is Elite, without an Elite OC. We can see their potential, but without the right OC (and offensive system) it usually remains potential.
Dak does not have one.
quote:
I immediately know poster is clueless.
Show me a fan who feels the need to compare its former players to other guys, and I'll show you a fan who only watches LSU.
If you think that Burrow's story is the same without Brady, youre the one thats clueless. Trevor Lawrence has shown the potential to be an Elite NFL QB. Without a better OC (ie offensive system), its just potential.
Show me an ELITE QB, and I'll show a QB with a very good OC. YES you still need to have the talent.
EXAMPLES
Aaron Rodgers - Nathaniel Hackett
Tom Brady - Josh McDaniels
Josh Allen - Brian Daboll
Patrick Mahomes - Andy Reid/Eric Beieniemy
Matthew Stafford - Sean McVay/Kevin O'Connell
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:59 pm to prepsportsallday
I read the first few sentences and quit reading. He had almost no snaps at Ohio state other than mop up...that's why he left, he wasn't seeing the field. Second, dude, he didn't even go through Spring training. This is absurd. The game started slowing down for him at the end of 2018. You put him in Dallas the last several years and with the exact same team Dallas has won several playoff games and possibly made a super bowl. Dak can scramble but teams have figured out how to contain him. He will never carry a team.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:01 pm to prepsportsallday
Show me a top OC and I'll show you a great qb. Hell, Curly got his hc job at LSU because of favre. I've never seen a person more hyped than Joe Brady. He was fired, and out of work still. Lol
Posted on 1/17/22 at 6:06 pm to rob62
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Dak made one of the dumbest plays of the season to end the game today vs the 49ers. He had no time outs and could have gone to the end zone 2 or 3 times but ran the ball down the middle of the field. SURPRISE!! The clock ran out. Dak makes stupid plays at times and that was one will be remembered by Dallas fans for a long time.
You really think Dak called that play himself? If so then your opinion on anything football related is irrelevant.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 6:13 pm to zsav77
51 sacks over 17 games = 3 per game avg. That doesn't include hurries and knockdown.
Imagine the numbers Burrow could put up if he wasn't running for his life or looking at the sky.
Imagine the numbers Burrow could put up if he wasn't running for his life or looking at the sky.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 1/17/22 at 6:55 pm to StAugFLTiger
MAIN IDEA: The Coaching Staff Matters
We differ on "almost no snaps". But he was a backup. You said he had not played a "real college game".
You said he arrived on campus late. I simply said, he had plenty of a time to learn the offense through the summer and all of fall camp. AND he played very well throughout the 2018 season. He was a gifted passer before he arrived.
Its not that simple bruh. You can't just send Joe Burrow to a team (no matter who the coordinator is) and instant playoff wins. Dallas' problem is not Dak. Its the OC. Thats why somebody is about to get fired.
Dak ran when he wanted to last night. The problem is he didnt run enough.
I'm no prophet. He certainly wont carry THIS team, with THIS staff.
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He had almost no snaps at Ohio state other than mop up...
We differ on "almost no snaps". But he was a backup. You said he had not played a "real college game".
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he didn't even go through Spring training
You said he arrived on campus late. I simply said, he had plenty of a time to learn the offense through the summer and all of fall camp. AND he played very well throughout the 2018 season. He was a gifted passer before he arrived.
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You put him in Dallas the last several years and with the exact same team Dallas has won several playoff games
Its not that simple bruh. You can't just send Joe Burrow to a team (no matter who the coordinator is) and instant playoff wins. Dallas' problem is not Dak. Its the OC. Thats why somebody is about to get fired.
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Dak can scramble but teams have figured out how to contain him
Dak ran when he wanted to last night. The problem is he didnt run enough.
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He will never carry a team.
I'm no prophet. He certainly wont carry THIS team, with THIS staff.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:04 pm to StAugFLTiger
quote:
Show me a top OC and I'll show you a great qb
Top OC has a great QB.
Great QB usually has a great OC.
If either of the above is not true, we usually dont find out whether the other fact even exist.
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They do hand in hand.
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never seen a person more hyped than Joe Brady. He was fired, and out of work still. Lol
Jeez. The man gets fired by one of the most dysfunctional franchises in the league (Jacksonville). Any average football fan knows that fact. Ignorant fans think, "if Brady was fired at Jacksonville", then it must been ALLLL JOEY B. smh
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:33 pm to prepsportsallday
Isn't he still unemployed? Why is that? Dak will never be a winner. He did make a lot of money off dumbass jj
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:21 pm to Jack Crevalle
I’ll take Chase, Tee Higgins, and Tyler Boyd over Coop, lamb, and Gallup to be honest.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:25 pm to Jack Crevalle
The Cowboys won’t amount to anything as long as that egotistical Jones is running the show. But it is fun to watch him continue to run them in the ground one way or another.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:39 pm to StAugFLTiger
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Isn't he still unemployed? Why is that? Dak will never be a winner. He did make a lot of money off dumbass jj
He's unemployed because he didnt do well in an dysfunctional environment. Do you really think he wont be a coordinator somewhere this year. Come on man! LINK /
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Dak will never be a winner.
He's already a winner. Has a winning record as a starter. 22,000+ passing yards. 98.7 QBR
NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year.
2× Pro Bowler. Where do people get this stuff
How many active QBs do think have that resume?
Now, do I believe that Burrow is better than Dak. Yes. Burrow is going prove to be one the best that has ever done it. But Dak is proven. No doubt. He needs an OC and HC.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 1/18/22 at 7:35 am to zsav77
Wouldn't know it from their success. Obviously serviceable enough as the Bengals not cowboys are still in the playoffs.
Anyway, Burrow has more offensive weapons. Point stands.
Anyway, Burrow has more offensive weapons. Point stands.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 9:07 am to prepsportsallday
quote:
Dallas' problem is not Dak. Its
Jerry Jones.
FIFY
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:14 am to Hat Tricks
He could have checked out of it. He is a somewhat below average NFL QB that makes the occasional really good throw. He cannot read a defense.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:17 am to White Tiger
He struggles with it mightily.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:33 am to White Tiger
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He could have checked out of it. He is a somewhat below average NFL QB that makes the occasional really good throw. He cannot read a defense.
It was a play call that the coaches sent in for that specific situation. It wasn't a matter of reading the defense. It was the play that was called because the idiot coaches thought it would put them in a better position to throw 1 to the endzone. There is just no way you can put that on Dak. Put it on the coaching staff.
And below average? Come on man. You're reaching there. You have some actual stats and data to back that up with? Can he lead the Cowboys to the Super Bowl? That's questionable for sure but he is not below average.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 10:37 am
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:37 am to paulb52
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False start on SF on 4th and inches. Flag comes flying after QB easily made the 1st down. Where was the false start; didn’t see.
Was not a false start was illegal formation. They shifted more than one player and the right tackle wasn’t set for a second before the snap.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:43 am to 777Tiger
quote:
Dallas' problem is not Dak. Its
Jerry Jones.
FIFY
Cowboys are one of the more talented teams in the NFL. Jerry Jones is the GM and has done his job. He needs to do a better job of hiring a head coach that won’t just be a yes man.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 11:27 am to geauxtigers33
Playoff wins the last 25 years-
Jake Delhomme (5)
Mark Sanchez (4)
Max Johnson's father (4)
Dallas Cowboys (3)
Jake Delhomme (5)
Mark Sanchez (4)
Max Johnson's father (4)
Dallas Cowboys (3)
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