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re: JJ's First Take interview was pretty good
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:43 am to RobbBobb
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:43 am to RobbBobb
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L 3 and 6 Jo. Jefferson middle pass complete to De. Peterson for 3 yards to the LS39
This is on our receivers, and it something D.Lo continued to do all fricking season
As a receiver on 3rd down, you have to adjust your route to accomadate the distance to the marker. D. Lo had a hard time comprehending that for some odd reason.
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:46 am to Scoob
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So, there would be precedent for some improvement on JJ's part. That's good to know. I always got the impression his issues were being overloaded with the game from the neck up. That could be on the player, but could also be on the coach/scheme.
there's precedent for improvement just based on the fact that he threw 4 times as many TDs in the 09 reg season (in 1 fewer game) as in '10. we've seen him do a lot better (and again, I'm by no means calling his 09 passing stats great or even good, just way better than '10).
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:47 am to lsuman242
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he has pretty good arm strength
have you seen some of the ducks he's thrown on the deep ball? I may be selling him short by saying weak arm, but its not good either
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:47 am to 7thWardTiger
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L 3 and 6 Jo. Jefferson middle pass complete to De. Peterson for 3 yards to the LS39
This is on our receivers
Really? Jefferson didn't have anything to do with that?
Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:05 pm to KingofthePoint
JJ's arm strength is fine. He can zip it in when it needs to be zipped in. Unfortunately he doesn't always zip it in when it needs to be, but he does have the ability. I think with Krags' instruction we'll see markedly improved passing.
His TD off of the bootleg vs bama last year shows he can zip it in. It was impressive.
His TD off of the bootleg vs bama last year shows he can zip it in. It was impressive.
This post was edited on 6/16/11 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:12 pm to ATLTiger
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pretty mediocre
not really
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2006 - Was at his best against Oklahoma, completing 26 of 41 passes for 341 yards and two touchdowns.
Equaled his career pinnacle with three touchdown strikes at Arizona State.
Tied for seventh in the country in total offense (290.8 ypg) and ranked 11th in passing (21.8 completions per game) after five games.
Also carved out one of the program’s better errorless streaks by a quarterback, accumulating 161 consecutive passes without an interception, dating back to his sophomore season.
Finished the regular season fourth in the Pac-10 in total offense (219.3).
Averaged one TD pass for every 27.5 attempts for the season.
This post was edited on 6/16/11 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:22 pm to faxis
I want to fist fight every one of you retard fricks that thinks JJ will be a Heisman contender. I just need the dude to keep me from killing my family every Saturday...much less win the fricking Heisman.
Have y'all really forgotten exactly how terrible he's been? Seriously.
Have y'all really forgotten exactly how terrible he's been? Seriously.
This post was edited on 6/16/11 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:23 pm to Boh
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Really? Jefferson didn't have anything to do with that
No. He really doesn't. It is the receivers responsibility to know the down and distance as well, and to adjust their routes accordingly. JJ didn't make D. Lo run a 3 yard route on 3rd and 6. D. Lo has to show field awareness.
And in case you have never played QB, it is kind of hard to distinguish how far a receiver route has gone over the middle of the field. QB is standing 5 yards back from the LOS, so that means he's looking for a receiver at 11+ yards. When the O line starts getting pushed back towards you, it screwa with your depth perception, i guess thats what you can call it. All of a sudden, that 3 yard route where D. Lo ended up 8-9 yards from the QB, turns into what looks like an 10-11 yard route because the D line is further from you, and the defenders are further back. Its a perception thing. Thats why the receiver HAS to adjust his route on 3rd downs.
This post was edited on 6/16/11 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 6/16/11 at 3:06 pm to BilJ
Ill take high single digits based on last years historically bad exhibition - didnt the guy only throw like 3-4 all season long!?!?!?!
Posted on 6/16/11 at 3:19 pm to RobbBobb
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not really
yes really. he threw more TDs than INTs (12/14) and his passer rating was middle of the pack nationally. not to mention he got benched for stretches for Brady Leaf.
and since we're bolding
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Tied for seventh in the country in total offense (290.8 ypg) and ranked 11th in passing (21.8 completions per game) after five games.
rest of the year he tailed off.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 5:24 pm to BilJ
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Let's make our goals a little more reachable like...I don't know, double digit passing TDs?
What about double digit wins?
Which would you rather have?
Posted on 6/16/11 at 5:43 pm to Gray Tiger
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What about double digit wins?
Which would you rather have?
These two options aren't mutually exclusive. Let's see how many times we get double digit wins with single digit passing tds in the future.
This post was edited on 6/16/11 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 6/16/11 at 9:47 pm to KingofthePoint
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These two options aren't mutually exclusive. Let's see how many times we get double digit wins with single digit passing tds in the future.
My question goes unanswered.
How often has LSU had single TD passes and double digit wins?
How often has LSU had double digit TD passes and single digit wins?
One does not always guarantee the other.
So again I ask, what would you prefer? Double digit TD passes or double digit wins?
The only stastic that matters to me is wins. It's why the game is played.
Do you wish for this team's statistics:?
1999 38 TD passes/ 3-8 record
2000 24 TD passes/ 6-5 record
2001 27 TD passes/ 3-9 record
2002 19 TD passes/ 8-3 record
2003 34 TD passes/ 5-7 record
2004 28 TD passes/ 5-6 record
2005 16 TD passes/ 2-9 record
2006 18 TD passes/ 4-8 record
2007 6 TD passes/ 4-8 record
2008 10 TD passes/ 3-9 record
2009 9 TD passes/ 4-8 record
Posted on 6/16/11 at 10:22 pm to Gray Tiger
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So again I ask, what would you prefer? Double digit TD passes or double digit wins?
Why are they mutually exclusive? Dont you think having competent qb play might make it even more likely to win a NC? For example if JJ would have thrown 2 more TD passes against Auburn and 2 more versus Arky LSU would have won the West? I know that would have bumped his SEC total up to a whopping 6 but imagine how much better they would have been and possibly will be if they win with the qb contributing instead of winning in spite of him.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 10:37 pm to Gray Tiger
Its really not that hard to understand where the vast majority is coming from....
Fact remains, its near impossible any team wins the SEC next season with a starter not throwing at least an average amount of touchdowns
I hope LSU does, and wish upon a star JJ has a good season.
Still, some of you pull up stats to convince yourself and not others
Fact remains, its near impossible any team wins the SEC next season with a starter not throwing at least an average amount of touchdowns
I hope LSU does, and wish upon a star JJ has a good season.
Still, some of you pull up stats to convince yourself and not others
This post was edited on 6/16/11 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 6/17/11 at 8:58 am to Rudy40
Ok Rudy that is truly retarded. If we don't give up 440 yards against Auburn we might beat Auburn. Did you forget JJ was the leading rusher on our team with 74 yards 1 TD, rest of the team had 41 yards rushing.
These are the horrible passing stats
JJ 7/14 46 int
JL 8/14 43
But we could neither run nor stop the run.
At Arkansas JJ didn't let Knile Davis run for 154 yards and a TD. he also didn't make Hatcher take a bad angle or run into his own teammate which caused an 80 and 85 yard TD. And lastly he didn't make the kicker miss a field goal.
No matter what you believe, the passing game was not the cause of our two losses. sure it would have made the wins look way better but if the passing game can get blamed for every close win then the defense should get blamed for the losses.
These are the horrible passing stats
JJ 7/14 46 int
JL 8/14 43
But we could neither run nor stop the run.
At Arkansas JJ didn't let Knile Davis run for 154 yards and a TD. he also didn't make Hatcher take a bad angle or run into his own teammate which caused an 80 and 85 yard TD. And lastly he didn't make the kicker miss a field goal.
No matter what you believe, the passing game was not the cause of our two losses. sure it would have made the wins look way better but if the passing game can get blamed for every close win then the defense should get blamed for the losses.
Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:00 am to Datbayoubengal
JJ respresented LSU well.
Came off as a smart, funny, and likeable guy.
Came off as a smart, funny, and likeable guy.
Posted on 6/17/11 at 9:08 am to Rudy40
No you must choose between having double digit wins or passing TDs. YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH!!!!
Posted on 6/17/11 at 11:35 am to BilJ
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No you must choose between having double digit wins or passing TDs. YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH!!!!
Lame sarcasm doesn't answer my question.
If less than double digit TD passes results in double digit wins, what's the problem?
Why are you and others are so obsessed with a minor data point that you have lost sight of the purpose of the event?
The example I referenced demonstrates that there is no guaranteed connection between TD passes and wins.
To suggest otherwise betrays a superficial understanding of the game.
Oh and before you bother, I'm not related to any LSU QB.
Posted on 6/17/11 at 1:30 pm to Gray Tiger
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If less than double digit TD passes results in double digit wins, what's the problem?
Do you really think LSU can go 2 straight years with virtually no production out of their starting qb and put up a great record? This year PP isnt their to return punts and kicks. While I think whoever does will be good it will be alot to expect to equal Peterson's production.
As far as the Auburn/Arky games do you not think a big part of the rushing yardage was due to the defense being left out on the field because JJ was a 3 and out machine? Go back and watch the films and see how many 3 and out drives JJ led in those games. If you look at both games the D did okay in the first half but wore down in the 2nd half due to no help from the offense? Again I realize the D could have played better but would it kill you to expect a qb to throw a few TD's in a big SEC game. I mean he threw 0 in the Auburn and Arky games I guess expecting him to throw a few in a big game is asking to much of a starting qb.
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