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re: JJ quote in Times Picayune

Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:15 pm to
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When is he EVER highly accurate?


He was accurate against UNC and the majority of last year. JJ is not perfect, and his game last night was atrocious, but turds like you are just adding fuel to the hyperbole that he is and always has been a scrub, and Lee will lead us to the promised land.
Posted by MSUBSNTiger
Member since Nov 2008
361 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:17 pm to
My perspective, JJ had a bad game, it is still early in the season but lets take a look at some stats of him over a season and not 2 games. In 2009 JJ was 182/296 for 2166 yards, completion percentage of 61.5 with 17tds and 7ints. In Matt Flynns national championship QB season he was 202/359 for 2407 yards, completion percentage of 56.3 with 21tds and 11ints. Flynn was sacked 26 times and JJ was sacked 34 times. That is just the statistics, that comes as a shock to me as well. Give him some time and lets not get too irrational just yet!!
Posted by Coonass
Buckhead
Member since Sep 2005
2917 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:17 pm to
He's had a sub-par career. He'd tear it up in NAIA football, but he's a below average qb for the Div I SEC.
Posted by 1p56
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:21 pm to
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"That's what happens in the game of football,I'm not always perfect. The best quarterback in the world not always perfect. It wasn't a night for me to be highly accurate with passes. It happens." - Aaron Brooks
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15877 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:24 pm to
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not as much as people who can't understand a simple explanation...JJ had a bad night and he fully realises that he must perform better or he will open the door for someone else. the kid is a winner and he will do everything in his power to correct his mistakes.


Sorry, but I'm not buying it. I'm not sure that he does realize the gravity of the situation. He shouldn't be saying "it happens", he should be taking responsibiity for sucking.

He is not one iota better than he was last year. The difference so far is the improved play of the offensive line, which has bought him more time. Otherwise, he'd be taking sacks left and right, as he has been prone to do in the past.

He may be a good kid, but LSU won't win a championship of any kind with him under center, at least not this season.
Posted by Tiger4
Member since Jan 2009
8761 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:24 pm to
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I can name atleast 50 qbs who are and were perfect at all times...
Start.
Posted by 1p56
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:26 pm to
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In 2009 JJ was 182/296 for 2166 yards, completion percentage of 61.5 with 17tds and 7ints. In Matt Flynns national championship QB season he was 202/359 for 2407 yards, completion percentage of 56.3 with 21tds and 11ints. Flynn was sacked 26 times and JJ was sacked 34 times.


Flynn's offense: #9

JJ' offense: #112

Flynn was actually capable of getting Crowton's checks, getting us in the right play and executing.

JJ meerkatted.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56550 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:28 pm to
let me help JJ out..

On your best day, you are still not very accurate.

Sorry if it's harsh, but it's the truth...watch your own film and be humble about your abilities versus "The best quarterbacks".
Posted by LSUSpyder
Shreveport LA
Member since Feb 2009
1779 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:29 pm to
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he had the 2nd highest completion % in the SEC last year.


Because 9/10 of his passes are less than 10 yards away.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:29 pm to
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Flynn's offense: #9

JJ' offense: #112


While I do think that Flynn was clearly the better QB, you cannot deny the fact that 2007 LSU had a dominant line and run game. 2007 LSU's line was exponentially stronger than 2009's.

Also, Flynn had a change of pace QB that perfectly complimented his style. If JJ had Shep like Flynn had RP, I think it's a no brainer that our offense would be better.
Posted by 1p56
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:34 pm to
Without a doubt.

Flynn was also a 5th yr senior, JJ a freshman.

I was being a little silly about the OP comparing Flynn and JJ.
Posted by MSUBSNTiger
Member since Nov 2008
361 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:34 pm to
In his defense he went 8/20 which is only 40% completion percentage, but Andrew Luck for Stanford went 11/24 45.8% completion and he is a Heisman contender and Jacory Harris went 22/39 for 56.4% completion percent but threw 1 td and 4ints and he WAS on the Heisman watch list. So yes he has a bad game for him.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56550 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:37 pm to
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Also, Flynn had a change of pace QB that perfectly complimented his style. If JJ had Shep like Flynn had RP, I think it's a no brain er that our offense would be better


I disagree 100%..Here is why

It goes back to the accuracy issue..JJ is suppose to be the passer correct in your suggestion, correct? So, when the change of pace guy comes in, he usually runs the ball..

Therefore, as long as JJ has issues with accuracy, each time he throws it, we have problems executing the play.

So we will/would struggle running for first first downs with long down and distance. We would have to rely on the pass, and that isn't a good situation right now..we don't scare anyone throwing the ball.
Posted by LSUSpyder
Shreveport LA
Member since Feb 2009
1779 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:37 pm to
Thing is Jefferson never has a good game.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:49 pm to
How many minutes does the quarterback need? Watch a replay and count the seconds JJ has to throw the ball. If he would step up into the pocket, instead of run backwards, he could give himself even more time.
Flynn's offenive line had no more experince that this one. In fact the right side of the 07 OL had a converted fith year defensive tackle, who had ridden the bench for four years, playing at right tackle. The right guard was a converted DT redshirt freshman, who as a SR last year, was the most maligned OL on the team besides T-Bob.
The same guy as a redshirt Sophomore, first year starter, was part of a great OL, but as a Senior, he was the reason JJ had a bad year. The same arguement could be made for Black.
Posted by thanksjhester
Sonic
Member since Jun 2009
5756 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:53 pm to
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Does this statement concern you a little?
Yes it does. It appears there is a confidence problem.Not saying that JL is the savior but he needs to play. How will we know if JL is capable if all he gets is the last 1:40 of the game? Turn him loose and let him play. After all he did look better than jj in the spring game.
Posted by MSUBSNTiger
Member since Nov 2008
361 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:56 pm to
15/21 was a good game 71% complete is a GOOD game, not great. Truly, do I think he is a great QB, No, he has been average at best, he has not ever had a completion percentage higher than 71 percent in college. Just another comparison even in 09 with 61% completion percentage it is still lower than Tebows second season as a starter at 66.9% and he was described as being not an accurate passer.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:06 pm to
The kid does not look comfortable at all for whatever reason.Also the WR's are not in sync with him.Coach Miles has an obligation to do what is best for the entire team not just one player.The rest of these highly touted players who chose to come to LSU over anyone else deserve to have the opportunity to be able to showcase their skills.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56805 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:14 pm to
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Does this statement concern you a little?


I don't know why it should because he is right. Do any of you remember McElroy in the middle of the season last year, he fell completely apart and everybody went nuts.
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6112 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:22 pm to
this JJ quote is very sad...i hated tebow when he was at florida but when that dude either lost or played bad he was angry and would apologize to the fans...example the speech he made after ole miss...thats the difference between a successful QB and a guy who completes less than 50% of his passes and throws for under 100 yards against a crappy team and then says "oh well s*** happens."

i will always support any QB that starts under center for LSU on saturdays but this kid does not have the fire and while yes there was terrible play calling our QB has to say something more than that

plus i got news for you jefferson your offense is one of the worst in the nation with some of the best talent in the nation...you rarely leave LSU fans convinced that you are "perfect" in any game

nonetheless
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