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re: JJ Can't Read a Defense: That's Been Our Problem
Posted on 12/21/10 at 1:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/21/10 at 1:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So in your opinion, reading defenses and seeing through coverage is not necessary for a QB at LSU.
It's necessary, just incredibly difficult given our offense. We have minimal passing lanes because we refuse to utilize the middle of the field. If a CB has the sideline route covered on the break, then our QB has to look to other side of the field for an open receiver.
It's not difficult to understand. A football field is close to 53 yards wide. If you only utilize the outer 15 yards on each side, you allow a defense to squeeze your passing lanes down to nothing by pinching your routes against the sidelines.
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Posted on 12/21/10 at 1:52 pm to Antonio Moss
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It's necessary, just incredibly difficult given our offense. We have minimal passing lanes because we refuse to utilize the middle of the field. If a CB has the sideline route covered on the break, then our QB has to look to other side of the field for an open receiver.
You are assuming this is all scheme. In fact, if you watch film LSU has an open receiver in the middle of the field often and he is never even looked at.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 1:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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In fact, if you watch film LSU has an open receiver in the middle of the field often and he is never even looked at.
I guess we watch different games.
The only games I remember seeing crossing and seam routes were Alabama (two completions to Randle on two crossing routes) and Ole Miss (TEs in the seam all day long).
We ran some of that stuff in the first half against Arkansas and then, predictably, stopped doing it because it was working.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 1:58 pm to km
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JJ's drop back is slow, his reads are slow and his deliveries are slow. His play action is a joke. However, how much of this could have been improved with a "quarterbacks" coach who actually coaches?
This. Last year he did everything too slow. This year he tried to speed it up and he started to rush everything.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 1:58 pm to Antonio Moss
No, we are watching the same games. You are just looking to absolve "your guy" of any responsibility and you do a pretty decent job of it.
You are looking for much different things than I am looking for, though we are seeing the exact same things.
You are looking for much different things than I am looking for, though we are seeing the exact same things.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 2:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You are just looking to absolve "your guy" of any responsibility and you do a pretty decent job of it.
It has less to do with absolving Jefferson and more to do with making sure everyone understands just how awful of an Offensive Coordinator Gary Crowton is.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 5:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Based on performance, JL should have been starting. Take JL out of the TN and FL games and we are 8 -4, maybe worse.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 5:28 pm to Paulu
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Based on performance, JL should have been starting. Take JL out of the TN and FL games and we are 8 -4, maybe worse
Eh, hard to say but the fact that JL didn't start following the UF game was pretty telling. If he didn't start then, no one was going to beat out JJ.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 6:03 pm to Antonio Moss
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It's necessary, just incredibly difficult given our offense.
I would guess that the majority of college QB's can't truly "read defenses". Most can learn to check down to the second option and look off a safety, but truly understanding what the defense is going to do before they do it, thus knowing where the open route may be, is beyond most of them. Hell it's beyond many NFL QB's. You're right though, Crowton has shown little ability to adjust based on personnel.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 6:23 pm to ForeLSU
What would JJ do if he COULD read a defense?
Overthrow or underthrow by 15 yds to a different reciever ?
Overthrow or underthrow by 15 yds to a different reciever ?
Posted on 12/22/10 at 6:23 am to Antonio Moss
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We have minimal passing lanes because we refuse to utilize the middle of the field.
Does not match:
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I guess we watch different games.
The only games I remember seeing crossing and seam routes were Alabama (two completions to Randle on two crossing routes) and Ole Miss (TEs in the seam all day long).
As I said earlier, we gave up the middle after 2008 and two of the best receiving TE's we've ever had (Dickson and Peterson) have suffered from loneliness as a result. Most of the time over the past couple of years, they were uncovered much of the time but we never run any designed plays and checkdowns (when TE's often see the ball) never happen because JJ can't progress past his primary receiver...
Posted on 12/22/10 at 6:55 am to tadelatt
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He was a head coach at La Tech and BYU and only had 47 wins in seven seasons which makes him mediocre at best. Not to mention the man was mediocre at two schools that could not come close to competing in the SEC.
this is one of the stupidest posts i have ever read here. so you only grade by RESULTS? by his record as HEAD COACH ONLY?You think because he coached there he could not coach anywhere else? you just made a fool our of yourself. he never had a good year at oregon? or LSU?or with the bears? yeah, i want him gone also but your skills in critiquing are clearly flawed or you do not know much about the inner workings of football if you are just a results only bean counter who knows nothing on how those results are reached or how to grade performance.
This post was edited on 12/22/10 at 7:00 am
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:05 am to Antonio Moss
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Serious question - why could Jefferson all of sudden spot open receivers against these two teams and not anyone else?
Primary read was open against a defense that was tailor made for the play call.
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