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re: JJ as QB for LSU
Posted on 7/1/11 at 12:00 pm to Jdawgz
Posted on 7/1/11 at 12:00 pm to Jdawgz
Jarrett Lee played pretty well last year, but I'm getting the impression that many on here would prefer him to JJ at that point, which is kinda dumb IMHO.
He had the luxury of entering games situationally. You know Lee would have thrown some picks if he had been our regular QB, if he had made 200+, 300+ passing attempts.
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Posted on 7/1/11 at 12:06 pm to TxTiger82
You're trying to get on the Rants top 10 list aren't you?
Umm...did you watch how JJ played last year during that part of the season?
Not really..he shared snaps in most games, and was thrown into some late with the saying "JJ can't win this..you have to. Good luck" That's a lot more pressure then JJ had.
Based on what? JJ had 10..and JL only had 1 in the 4 games he played and had regular QB snaps.
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Lee played pretty well last year, but I'm getting the impression that many on here would prefer him to JJ at that point, which is kinda dumb IMHO
Umm...did you watch how JJ played last year during that part of the season?
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He had the luxury of entering games situationally.
Not really..he shared snaps in most games, and was thrown into some late with the saying "JJ can't win this..you have to. Good luck" That's a lot more pressure then JJ had.
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You know Lee would have thrown some picks if he had been our regular QB, if he had made 200+, 300+ passing attempts.
Based on what? JJ had 10..and JL only had 1 in the 4 games he played and had regular QB snaps.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 12:35 pm to TigerKnights
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Yes, except no one has argued Mett is less talented than JJ.
Any time you throw 32 TDs and 4 ints, I would assume you to be talented.
How or whether that translates into BCS/SEC football success, I have no clue.
It's easy to like the new guy cause he hasn't made any poor decisions yet that we can pick apart.
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JJ offers a safe alternative who won't potentially hurt us
JJ has "hurt" us.
Metts the safe play now cause no one can reference where he "hurt" us.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 12:38 pm to CajunFootball
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Umm...did you watch how JJ played last year during that part of the season?
Of course, but the staff had no faith in Lee for a good reason.
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Not really..he shared snaps in most games, and was thrown into some late with the saying "JJ can't win this..you have to. Good luck" That's a lot more pressure then JJ had.
Right. He was put into games situationally. Sometimes when you have nothing to lose you play better. Hence, Lee's performance against Florida, for example. There is actually a lot less pressure as the reliever. Nobody expects you to win, so you can just let loose and let it fly. Jarrett Lee has always been good in those situations, see Auburn 2008.
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Based on what?
He prior performances, obviously. Look, if JL is so great, why didn't the staff play him more?
And you people call me dumb.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 12:43 pm to TxTiger82
I assume you either must be related to Geaux Tahel or haven't read the rant in awhile. If you want to argue that JL did not play better in the 4 games they shared snaps then you are a fool. He played early and often during both UT and UF. Can you explain why the staff put him in the game in crunch time over JJ? They had no faith Jefferson could win those games.
People still hate on JL for his 2008 performance. Guess what...JJ 2010 was just as bad statistically. He had the same amount of turnovers but was less productive. I guess he wasn't given the same chances though..poor JJ.
If you want to argue Freshmen/Junior then you have little knowledge. JJ had a very good defense which makes his record as a start much better then it should be. The 2008 defense and JJ would have lost at least 5 games last year.
People still hate on JL for his 2008 performance. Guess what...JJ 2010 was just as bad statistically. He had the same amount of turnovers but was less productive. I guess he wasn't given the same chances though..poor JJ.
If you want to argue Freshmen/Junior then you have little knowledge. JJ had a very good defense which makes his record as a start much better then it should be. The 2008 defense and JJ would have lost at least 5 games last year.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 12:58 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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I would think the fact Mett is running 3rd string would be the only "explanation" needed for him not starting.
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"I've been here for three years. That kind of gets the edge on everything.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 1:02 pm to TxTiger82
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He was put into games situationally
Yeah, when everyone knew he was going to pass and he still only had 1 INT in 89 attempts.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 1:05 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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JJ has "hurt" us.
Metts the safe play now cause no one can reference where he "hurt" us.
Just curious, but did you just debate my comment by making an identical argument?
I agree. I don't think JJ is as "safe" a bet as some make him out to be. If he has improved sure, but if he comes out the same Lee or Mett should get a legitimate shot to take over. I think Lee played pretty well until he got hit and Mett obviously offers the most "potential" of the three. I don't think it should required a lost season before Mett gets to see the field.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 1:07 pm to TigerKnights
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Just curious, but did you just debate my comment by making an identical argument?
No, he was saying the only reason people think Mett is better is because he hasn't played. Classic backup QB fodder.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 1:08 pm to TigerKnights
If JJ shits the bed early in the Oregon game then just give the team to Mett an let him go. Give him the experience he'll need.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 1:12 pm to CajunFootball
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If you want to argue that JL did not play better in the 4 games they shared snaps then you are a fool.
Meh.
UT
JJ 130yds total O
JL 170yds total O
UF
JJ 142yds total O
JL 124yds total O
Posted on 7/1/11 at 1:19 pm to Mayhawman
Who won both those games? JJ lead 0 TD drives, and his two scores were a direct result of JL leading the team down the field. UT..DD was just stupid and gave LSU the win.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 1:39 pm to CajunFootball
quote:I'm pretty sure that JJ's first TD against UT had nothing to do with JL.
Who won both those games? JJ lead 0 TD drives, and his two scores were a direct result of JL leading the team down the field. UT..DD was just stupid and gave LSU the win.
Don't underestimate the importance of red sone scoring and JJ's abilities in red zone scoring.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 1:54 pm to CajunFootball
quote:LSU.....the team that is. And JJ scored one all by his lonesome.
Who won both those games?
Look I agree improvement is needed, but you can't discount the effect he has on opp D. Watching Spr Game again, he'll give Ds fits with his scrambling and designed runs.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 1:57 pm to Mayhawman
So you take him getting only a few rushing TD's by 10 fumbles a positive?
Posted on 7/1/11 at 2:17 pm to CajunFootball
He was 2nd to Ridley in TDs and we still have some pass prot issues
Posted on 7/1/11 at 2:19 pm to Mayhawman
So his production running the ball means more then is lack of production turning it over?
Posted on 7/1/11 at 2:29 pm to CajunFootball
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10 fumbles
where is this number coming from?
Posted on 7/1/11 at 2:31 pm to Mayhawman
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you can't discount the effect he has on opp D
His running won't change and the opposing defenses were able to handle it last year. If his passing game doesn't improve neither will his production.
Posted on 7/1/11 at 2:43 pm to CajunFootball
I hate to get into this conversation but I'd just like to posit a question to a certain faction of this discussion. Do you think that Les has some sort of bizzare, unexplainable afinity for Jordan Jefferson that he puts above the other 84 scholarship players and walkons, his fellow coaches, his bosses, the entire university, the entire fanbase, his reputation, his future earnings, etc...or that--for whatever reason--he genuinely believes that Lee, like a lot of athletes in various sports, does better coming in off the bench and doesn't perform at his best when he has the pressure of knowing all week that he's going to be the starter? If you honestly choose the former, I greatly question your intelligence. Not much question actually, you're just a fricking dumbass.
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