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re: Jefferson's Smart Decision to throw the ball away (with Pictures)
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:47 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:47 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Jefferson played very well in his time in the game. the only game i think we willneed to rely on him heavily is Bama. they have trouble with a more mobile QB. I still think we can run it on Bama and hit them with some passes if we let Lee get the quick passing game going early and throw it to the backs and TEs. That is the best way to beat a 3-4 defense is make their OLBs cover in space.
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Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:48 pm to LSUPHILLY72
As I said in another thread, I take no issue with JJ's ultimate decision to throw the ball away.
How can you tell, though, what the original route was from those photographs alone?
How can you tell, though, what the original route was from those photographs alone?
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:48 pm to LSUPHILLY72
false all the way around. It is a timing pass, and RR had gotten past his defender. JJ throws it in time on the sidelines where only rr can catch it. You really don't know much about football do you. And your motive is clear.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:49 pm to Geaux2002
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The kid goes 3-4 after having not thrown a pass since January in game situation and after having missed 6 weeks of practice, and we've got people up his arse crack because he didn't zing a ball into a tight spot like Aaron Rogers before RR turns on an out route on 3rd down in the redzone.
personally i don't want him making any throws in an SEC game against anyone other than ole miss or kentucky after missing that much time.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:49 pm to Tiger Ryno
Brantley threw for 200 yards in the first half before being hurt. They can be passed on by lee.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:50 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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The kid goes 3-4 after having not thrown a pass since January in game situation and after having missed 6 weeks of practice, and we've got people up his arse crack because he didn't zing a ball into a tight spot like Aaron Rogers before RR turns on an out route on 3rd down in the redzone.
While there may be some doing that, the ones coming to his defense and claiming this shows great improvement are as much to blame. For better or worse, you are going to have people who hate JJ and people who love him on this board. Those two groups will go out of their way to kill any positives or negatives brought up against JJ.
That leaves the rest of us that are simply trying to debate something like this play as being labeled as in one camp or the other.
I think JJ brings a lot of things to this team, and I am glad that he's back after serving his punishment. That said, I am not going to blow the kid for throwing a pass away. There were issues with that play, and JJ made sure it wasn't a negative play. 3 is better than 0.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:51 pm to CantonTiger128
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false all the way around. It is a timing pass, and RR had gotten past his defender. JJ throws it in time on the sidelines where only rr can catch it. You really don't know much about football do you. And your motive is clear.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:51 pm to Geaux2002
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There were issues with that play, and JJ made sure it wasn't a negative play. 3 is better than 0.
+1
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:51 pm to LSUPHILLY72
OK didn't read all the posts, but here is my observation...
If he throws the fade to the back corner, RR has a touchdown. JJ should have thrown the ball at Pic# 3, to the back pylon. Either RR catches it, or noone does.
If he throws the fade to the back corner, RR has a touchdown. JJ should have thrown the ball at Pic# 3, to the back pylon. Either RR catches it, or noone does.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:52 pm to Geecubed
quote:bingo!
If he throws the fade to the back corner, RR has a touchdown. JJ should have thrown the ball at Pic# 3, to the back pylon. Either RR catches it, or noone does.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:53 pm to bwallcubfan
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Good post, but unfortunately the JJ haters will refuse to admit he made a smart decision. You're right though.
not a jj hater. The pass would have been a TD if thrown on time, rr got past the defender. Ball thrown to sidelines, rr adjusts to ball, catch made. TD. That simple.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:54 pm to Geecubed
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If he throws the fade to the back corner, RR has a touchdown. JJ should have thrown the ball at Pic# 3, to the back pylon. Either RR catches it, or noone does.
RR ran an out route. If JJ throws the fade before RR makes his cut he wouldn't have any idea where the ball is and the closest person to the ball would have been the safety.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:54 pm to The312
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How can you tell, though, what the original route was from those photographs alone?
By LSU leaving 9 guys in to block on a 3 step drop tells me that they were expecting Florida to bring the safety on a blitz (to help with the run).
Florida is obviously expecting run because they have 10 players 4 yards from the line of scrimmage with 9 guys "in the box".
If #9 moves up to help with the run, RR would go to where he came from. In the close up picture you can see him breaking to the inside. If #9 is not there he keeps going. Instead, he breaks to the out (not fade) to create seperation from the DB.
#9 anticipated this and undercut the route.
I do think play action would have helped...but that will happen against Bama.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:55 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Did JJ ask to do that? If so, that's priceless!
That's what I read. Thought it was fitting. Drove Florida fans nuts.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:55 pm to junkfunky
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and the closest person to the ball would have been the safety.
The safety who first broke inside, and then cut underneath.... Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:56 pm to CantonTiger128
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The pass would have been a TD if thrown on time, rr got past the defender.
Go look at the pics again. Once the safety took away the inside the cb was playing the outside. That would have been an interception or close to it.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:56 pm to CantonTiger128
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And your motive is clear.
What's my motive? Other than help people understand the game a little better?
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You really don't know much about football do you.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:57 pm to CptBengal
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The safety who first broke inside, and then cut underneath.
Yep, that guy. (ie. no one would have been any where near the ball)
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:57 pm to WacoTiger
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The problem is that JJ waited to make the throw before RR made his cut. If he had made the throw before the cut, like on a fade route, RR would have been the only player that could have caught the ball. As is typical, JJ can't make the decision to throw until RR makes his cut; by then, it is too late.
+ 1.7 trillion or the national deficit...whichever is higher.
Posted on 10/11/11 at 2:57 pm to junkfunky
quote:so the safety who was on the inside and even with RR would have gotten past him and to the corner before RR could make a play?
RR ran an out route. If JJ throws the fade before RR makes his cut he wouldn't have any idea where the ball is and the closest person to the ball would have been the safety
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