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re: Jefferson to speak with media after practice
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:20 pm to Red Stick Tigress
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:20 pm to Red Stick Tigress
quote:
I have been very vocal in that I think JJ is innocent.
good for you.
i hope he is. however he WAS arrested and indicted on a charge relating to the matter. those are facts.
as far as the rest, see my above post
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Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:22 pm to jcole4lsu
quote:
had johns been the sole person arrested the national media would not have blinked an eye.
I'm not talking about media hatred, I'm talking about ranter hatred. No one here has bashed Johns for putting LSU in a bad light by getting arrested, and the fact that he was recently cleared shouldn't matter. He was out with the boys and was arrested just like JJ with no hateful comments from the fanbase.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:24 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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No one here has bashed Johns for putting LSU in a bad light by getting arrested,
because he didnt. like i said, his arrest is an after thought. the starting qb moves the needle and has media reporting on it and putting lsu in a bad light. johns arrest by itself would barely make the evening local news. ranter hatred is at least partially stemmed from a) making LSU look bad and b) leaving LSU without its starting qb during a national championship run. luckily on the latter, JL stepped up admirably.
quote:
and the fact that he was recently cleared shouldn't matter
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:27 pm to jcole4lsu
quote:
I have to accept responsibility, and I don't have to apologize to the team, they were there, my record is 22-7 and I plan to start, frick off and deal with it.
Unfortunately, This is actually the a very accurate summary of JJ's comments today
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:30 pm to south bama tiger
quote:
Unfortunately, This is actually the a very accurate summary of JJ's comments today
if you all dont understand that was EXACTLY what he should have said at this point then i dont know what to tell ya.
be pissed at him breaking curfew, getting in some form of a fight, making lsu look bad, and being suspended.... thats all fine.
you cannot be mad at the kid for doing what his lawyer tells him to do though. its just stupid. even for this board.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:30 pm to jcole4lsu
quote:
the grand jury wouldnt even bring charges and their burden of proof is FAR less.
And that's even more reason for everyone to reserve their opinions about Jefferson. A grand jury indictment doesn't really mean anything, imo, when it comes to guilt or innocence.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:32 pm to VOR
quote:
And that's even more reason for everyone to reserve their opinions about Jefferson. A grand jury indictment doesn't really mean anything, imo, when it comes to guilt or innocence.
agree 100%
but the vast majority of issue people have with JJ is not his actual guilt in this situation. it is the predicament his actions have put lsu in. thats certainly my problem with him.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:39 pm to Geaux2002
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offense, but now you are just trying to change what he meant
I'm not trying to do that at all, I'm just trying to interpret it. Because the other way doesn't make much sense. JJ is not the most famous player in college football, so how could he not imagine anybody else going through it? I just think this is another example of JJ not be a great communicator through the media. He never has been. And as a 21-year-old college kid, that's ok.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:41 pm to jcole4lsu
Sorry but I have to respectfully disagree with you on Johns' arrest. If it had been ANY other player (as in NOT QB) from ANY other team, SEC or otherwise, the Rant would have been all over it...
How many posts were there about FL and Bama players arrested when it happened? And the attitude was "just another day in Thugville, FL."
How many posts were there about FL and Bama players arrested when it happened? And the attitude was "just another day in Thugville, FL."
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:44 pm to Red Stick Tigress
how many of those arrests happened to be bit players who literally never see the field?
how many of those arrests happened on the same day/ at the same incident of a MAJOR player being arrested?
how long did those supposed threads and bashing last?
you dont even believe your own argument.
how many of those arrests happened on the same day/ at the same incident of a MAJOR player being arrested?
how long did those supposed threads and bashing last?
you dont even believe your own argument.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:47 pm to Hot Carl
quote:
I'm not trying to do that at all, I'm just trying to interpret it. Because the other way doesn't make much sense. JJ is not the most famous player in college football, so how could he not imagine anybody else going through it? I just think this is another example of JJ not be a great communicator through the media. He never has been. And as a 21-year-old college kid, that's ok.
Fair enough, but given JJ's history and how he seems to view the world (pre-Shady's incident), I don't have any reason to doubt the kid could be that delusional.
I wish the best for the kid though and hope he can help LSU to a great season.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:50 pm to Geaux2002
quote:
Fair enough, but given JJ's history and how he seems to view the world (pre-Shady's incident), I don't have any reason to doubt the kid could be that delusional.
Oh believe me, I know I could certainly be wrong.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:50 pm to Red Stick Tigress
If jj was not involved in the fight, what should he be apologizing for? Will all of you self righteous fans come back and apologize to jj when he is found innocent. And if not then why?
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:57 pm to jcole4lsu
I don't believe in my own argument? I absolutely do.
I made the statement that Johns was arrested and he was in the media too. I made the statement that the rantards didn't bash Johns like they did JJ.
I like everyone else, want the insanity to end.
LSU is winning. We shouldn't be discussing month old BS.
I made the statement that Johns was arrested and he was in the media too. I made the statement that the rantards didn't bash Johns like they did JJ.
I like everyone else, want the insanity to end.
LSU is winning. We shouldn't be discussing month old BS.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 7:01 am to Maximus
quote:Leopards don't change their spots. He appears to be an unapologetic, insecure, immature, and blame-shifting narcissist, and totally devoid of humility. He gives the impression that he could care less about Louisiana State University - other than being his springboard to the big time and an imagined pro career. It has always, is now, and forever will be all about him.
wow, i just read a list of JJ's quotes from today. Yikes.
Jefferson said he felt that his celebrity status was a factor in his arrest.
"You never know how popular you are until situations like this," he said. "I was just trying to go out and be a college student that night. I was enjoying myself with my teammates. A certain situation turned up. The position you play for the football team can cost you a lot and put you in trouble."
"I don't regret anything."
The "position" got him in trouble. Class dismissed....
This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 7:40 am
Posted on 10/4/11 at 7:06 am to south bama tiger
quote:
Unfortunately, This is actually the a very accurate summary of JJ's comments today
Thank you, because some admin, whoever it was, sent me a PM and told me I was "bashing" JJ when I clearly said we need him to win it all.
Told me to stop posting "anti-JJ posts" or basically I would get banned. I love free speech don't you?
Posted on 10/4/11 at 7:06 am to RotorheadTiger
quote:That's Les' issue.
Breaking curfew.
quote:Hope that optimism. Looks presumptuous.
Jeopardizing a championship run.
quote:Between him and the team.
Letting down his team.
quote:You are on the rant. You'll be here bitching about something else. Nah! he did not waste your time. he is just a convenient excuse for your journalistic pursuit on the rant.
Wasting our time.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 7:17 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:really good, and what this team needs, is 150 - 200 yards passing per game, 6 TDs for every 1 INT.... that would be good. good also could be completing around 70% of your passes. perfect compliment to a good running game. enough to keep teams from stacking the box consistently, and when they do you hit a 3rd and 1 pass for a 50 yd TD... that's good don't you think??
Define really good?
Posted on 10/4/11 at 7:20 am to tigerpawl
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Leopards don't change their spots. He appears to be an unapologetic, insecure, immature and confused narcissist, and totally devoid of humility. He gives the impression that he could care less about Louisiana State University - other than being his springboard to the big time and an imagined pro career. It has always, is now, and forever will be all about him.
Jefferson said he felt that his celebrity status was a factor in his arrest.
"You never know how popular you are until situations like this," he said. "I was just trying to go out and be a college student that night. I was enjoying myself with my teammates. A certain situation turned up. The position you play for the football team can cost you a lot and put you in trouble."
The "position" got him in trouble. Class dismissed....
Nice.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 7:22 am to Glock17
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Jordan: Do I accept responsibility? I have to. I didn't have to apologize (to the team). They were there
Once again, free pass. Never acted like a leader and took responsibility.
quote:
Jordan when asked if he was innocent: I'm not obligated to talk about that.
He is right he does not, but there goes the innocence that some claim. If you are innocent, you would yell it.
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Jordan: I wasn't trying to get into trouble, just trying to enjoy myself with my teammates.
I am sure he is right, but he still got into trouble. where is the accountability of a self proclaimed leader ?
interesting remarks by JJ. they say a lot to me.
I am glad he did not have a felony stick to him, I do not think he is a bad kid, but what did he really learn ? I guess only time will tell.
I really wish him the best, it just worries me when people get free passes, as they may repeat the actions. and Yes, I know, he was off the team and it was not a totally FREE PASS, but it also does not seem as if he understands what the possible consequences could have been.
I really find some of the answers very impersonal.
I honestly hope he understands how close he came to losing his life and future as he knows it.
Just a little self centered IMO.
This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 7:25 am
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