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re: "Jefferson Should Have Played Earlier": Guilbeau Is An Idiot

Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:58 am to
Posted by 4evrlsu
Death Valley
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:58 am to
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Not that bright? Maybe hes just human. He didn't start practicing that playbook until fall
.

That sounded worse than I intended. Didn't mean it derogatory. I was trying to say that it is perfectly understandable that he wouldn't be able to learn the play book that quickly. Some guys might could pull that off, but not everybody can. Wasn't meant as a criticism, more as a reason why he wasn't playing yet.

Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:59 am to
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Miles has consistently stated, and alluded to again in his post-game press conference, that it was an issue of learning the playbook. The athleticism was clearly there. Maybe the guy is just not that bright. If I recall Jamarcus Russell had some similar issues early on


so if he didn't know the whole playbook he might what? throw a bunch of interceptions for touchdowns...

I'm just saying that there were a lot of games earlier in the season where he could've gotten more run, and more game experience. and even with a stripped down version of the playbook, couldn't have made more mistakes than Lee.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:02 am to
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Wow your a complete dumbass.


a new twist on the old classic "your a moron."
Posted by DU3040
Rochester Hills
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:08 am to
If y'all remember this is how Matt Flynn got his start after his great play in a bolw game.
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:09 am to
Gilbeaux is like a few posters on this site. He just writes stuff to stir up shite.
He is like the bad little kid in your neighborhood.
Any fool, except Gilbeau apparently, understands that a kid fresh from high school isn't ready to run a major program offense. Just getting the terminology right is a chore. Chances are it was't the same as his high school coach used. Then there are lots of other factors to consider. Remember JJ didn't get to LSU until August. He had to graduate from high school first, something Guilbeau probably didn't do.
I have friends in Alabama and they said that when he was with the Mobile paper, he was always writing the same kind of stupid shite about Bama and Auburn. He's not a journalist. He's just a glorified gossip columnist.
Posted by MiketheTiger69
Moore/Norman, Oklahoma
Member since Jan 2004
3315 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:12 am to
Certainly JJ's play should not be discounted but let's remember that fb is a TEAM game. The team as a whole performed better by leaps and bounds in the bowl and the Tigers finally had the ball bounce their way vs through the season.
Who knows what would have happened had not the d and special teams stepped up their games to go along with the o finally clicking?
For this game, this looked like the Tiger team of the past few years-physically beating GT as well as playing with confidence and having fun.
It also seemed as if the team finally found and listened to its leaders.
JJ's progress gives a bright light to the future but the performance of the team as a whole makes it even brighter.
Posted by IrishEyes
Sleeping at the feet of Buddha
Member since Sep 2005
4516 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:14 am to
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something Guilbeau probably didn't do


Now you look like a silly delusional Tiger fan. You honestly think that an award winning journalist, that graduated from Missouri (The top Journalism school in the country, look it up) didn't graduate high school?

His job is to be an objective journalist. Not pamper LSU fans that hate the truth.
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 11:15 am
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:16 am to
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Wow your a complete dumbass.

Not to mention he works for Gannett News and not the LSU properghanda machine, The Advocate.


Your entitled to you're opinion, of course.

And thanks for catching my mistake on his employer. I corrected it. But no matter whom he works for, there's nothing "proper" about his unsubstantiated factual assumptions, to say nothing of his penchant for arguing from a bias, rather than reasoning to a conclusion.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:18 am to
the predictions that Guilbeau made for this season were dead on accurate. for those that so quickly forget.
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:26 am to
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Now you look like a silly delusional Tiger fan. You honestly think that an award winning journalist, that graduated from Missouri (The top Journalism school in the country, look it up) didn't graduate high school?

His job is to be an objective journalist. Not pamper LSU fans that hate the truth.


Thank you Mrs. Guilbeau. Do ou honestly think deep down that JJ was ready to capably run the LSU offense in September? You have to remember that when JJ got here there were two older QB's ahead of him. You know what that means. Here I'll explain it to you and GG. It means that THEY get more reps on practice. Now what do you know that that means? They learn more of the offense and are better able to execute it. Do you think that timming on pass plays just happens? Do you think that handing off to running backs much faster than you had in high school just happens? Do you think that reading college defenses is easy? Do you believe that a college football game is just like a high school football game just with bigger crowds and hotter cheerleaders?
Now I know that you think that GG is a brilliant journalist, probably Pulitzer material. But for all of that I just have to believe that Crowton knows a little more than GG about quarterbacks. Just call me foolish if you will.
GG is just trying to sell papers. Which is his job. Accuracy is secndary and I think you know that too.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12859 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:27 am to
Come on, folks.
It's no tnews that Guilbeau is a "shock jock" sports journalist who creates controversy to create interest/talk, etc.
That formula ALWAYS means attacking the home team in some way. There's no integrity to this approach to journalism.
This is the just the latest product of that formula.
The notion that JJ was ready for the bowl game, and therefore ready much earlier is a non sequitur.
To the contrary, JJ shows every indication of having been developed responsibly and responding accordingly.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:28 am to
what if by playing JJ earlier, he would've been ready earlier? like say game 6 or 7 of the season.
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:35 am to
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what if by playing JJ earlier, he would've been ready earlier? like say game 6 or 7 of the season.


What if he wasn't? What if he got hurt? What if What if What if........? Speculation is easy.
I tend to trust a professional football coach over some frat kids or a smarmy writer. It's just me I guess.
Posted by Central Tiger
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
2670 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:36 am to
"Wow your a complete dumbass.

Not to mention he works for Gannett News and not the LSU properghanda machine, The Advocate."




quote:

Now you look like a silly delusional Tiger fan. You honestly think that an award winning journalist, that graduated from Missouri (The top Journalism school in the country, look it up) didn't graduate high school?

His job is to be an objective journalist. Not pamper LSU fans that hate the truth.


First of all, "properghanda"???, dayum!

Secondly, please point out one of these "truths" that Guilbeau is famous for. He's a flamer, pure and simple. Has been for the last 10 years, and will continue to be. That's his shtick. He plays the devil's advocate in order to draw attention to his column. It's a tired and played out routine that everybody had enough of when he was with the Advocate. AlaTiger hit the nail on the head with those two Guilbeau comments. And you're right, his job is to be objective, which he's never been accused of.

Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:37 am to
It's a writer's job to second guess.

No doubt Miles did his best. But what if he made the wrong decision? Isn't that what people are supposed to talk about? The what if's?

What if Jarrett Lee played the 2nd half of AUB like he did the 1st half and JJ was forced into action incredibly early in the season.

Would we have lost 5 games?
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9160 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:37 am to
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what if by playing JJ earlier, he would've been ready earlier? like say game 6 or 7 of the season.

What if he struggled b/c he wasn't ready to play and he lost confidence? Then we'd have two QBs calling Dr. Phil.

We can play what if games all day long.
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 11:38 am
Posted by #1lsufan
South LA
Member since Jan 2004
1884 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:41 am to
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Guilbeau Is An Idiot

That's hardly breaking news!
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:48 am to
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What if he struggled b/c he wasn't ready to play and he lost confidence? Then we'd have two QBs calling Dr. Phil.

We can play what if games all day long.


Isn't that the point though? It's not bashing Les to say that it could've worked out.

Do you think that Les seeing how JJ has responded, might not think, man what've we put the kid in earlier?
Posted by Central Tiger
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
2670 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:49 am to
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It's a writer's job to second guess.


No it's not. No wonder you support Guilbeau. Unbelievable. I don't want to read a column by a reporter that is obviously a homer, but being one who's sole purpose is to "second guess" the decisions is ridiculous. Do you honestly believe what you just posted??
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:56 am to
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No it's not. No wonder you support Guilbeau. Unbelievable. I don't want to read a column by a reporter that is obviously a homer, but being one who's sole purpose is to "second guess" the decisions is ridiculous. Do you honestly believe what you just posted??


Yes it is. It's a columnist's job to look at what people have done, and what they could've done differently. Just as it is in political commentary, and all other forms of opinion based journalism.

What the heck? He's not just the beat reporter. he's a columnist.
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