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re: Jefferson - 96th ranked QB in QB Rating out of 116 that qualify

Posted on 9/19/10 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by EastForkTiger
North of Kentwood
Member since Aug 2010
646 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 5:47 pm to
Hey FESTUS some of these dick heads will not appreciate your sarcasm!!!
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 5:47 pm to
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How many of the 116 are 3-0?

32

How many from #97 to 116 are 3-0?

None.


Do you get the point he's trying to make now?
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 5:48 pm to
I didn't think JJ played badly last night. And he was two drops by Shep away from being much better statistically.
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 5:48 pm to
I dont think you have the first clue of how annoying you are.
You post the same shite over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over trying to sell people that our qb has little to nothing to do with the fact that our offense is bad.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 5:51 pm to
who are you replying to BT?
Posted by Slim
Poplarville, Mississippi
Member since Sep 2006
2953 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 5:54 pm to
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Well, the good news is he's still young and learning the system, and with a little more patience, he should develop.

You have got to be kidding. If after 3 years in the same system and he hasn't got it yet, something is wrong.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86000 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 5:58 pm to
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Hey FESTUS some of these dick heads will not appreciate your sarcasm!!!

I don't know. Check out this Dead Fish character. He's getting it. Look at the sarcasm in this post of his:

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I mean he hit more than 70 percent of his passes including a beautiful 51-yard bomb, and last night overall he played lights out.


This dude is King Sarcasm.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71489 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 5:59 pm to
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Yeah like its his fault he has an incompetent offensive coordinator who besides not being worth a shite as a quarterback coach, can’t call plays.


You cant blame this all on Crowton. Where was everyone blaming Crowton in 2007 with Matt Flynn at QB and our offense setting school records? I'm not saying Crowton doesn't deserve any of the blame, but to blame it solely on Crowton assuming Jefferson is a DECENT QB looks to be pretty ignorant to this point.


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What you mean, his first game he had it going.


For one HALF Jefferson had it going. Remember we didn't score a single point against UNC's depleted and no depth defense in the 2nd half. These are some of the least talented defenses Jefferson will see most of the year in UNC's 2nd/3rd team, Vandy and MSU.

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So why is Crowton afraid to pull the trigger?


Maybe it DOES have to do with Jefferson. Once again, not blaming just Jefferson like you just want to blame Crowton, but you cant put ALL the blame on Crowton. Jefferson has a history of not being a good downfield passer.


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it’s obviously the play calling


No, it's obviously not just that. I've watched every game too and JJ clearly has made mistakes and had his fair share of misfires. There's no reason to blame just Crowton for the last 4.5 halves of mediocre offensive football. We have got to be one of the absolute worst offenses in the country when we get on the other team's side of the field. Just imagine if we had converted just 2 of those 5 FG attempts against MSU into TDs. Instead of winning 29-7 in what was another lackluster offensive performance (And lights out defensive performance) we would of won 37-7 which would of been considered a very solid offensive performance. Our defense was setting up our offense for a huge game offensively to get points and we couldnt take advantage of that.


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Why even mention something that will never ever happen?


Because it just shows how little confidence we all have in our QB (And OC). You're simply blaming the OC which is not the only one to blame. Jefferson has to get it going himself which he really hasn't since the first 30 minutes of this season.
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:00 pm to
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who are you replying to BT?


take a guess.
Actually just notice who it was in reply to.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28846 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:01 pm to
A lot of these posters are stupid to the fact that IF Miles or Crowton wanted him to throw down the field more, he would do it. Some idiots are basically saying JJ is going against the coaches and running, or throwing small routes because "he wants to keep up his completion percentage".

Now would Miles take this defiance by a player, would he let a guy keep starting even though he defies him on every down? Or is his gameplan to run first and pass if need be.

Basically yall are saying Miles and Crowton wants JJ to be more aggressive at passing but he is doing the exact opposite and the coaches are allowing to disregard them.

That's what yall are saying right,

Right,

Right :thups:
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9768 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

How many of the 116 are 3-0?


That's right. Don't worry about what goes on under the hood.
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:12 pm to
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We threw the ball 20 times against Vandy for less than 100 yards, that's pretty bad. 16 times for 96 yards isn't pretty facepalm worthy too.


So he was supposed to throw for 300 yards on those horizontal passing plays? Yeah right?

I mean if I were Crowton and I had at least half a brain and wanted to keep my job, I’d call the plays to make it obvious that JJ can’t make the plays, but with the exception of one bad game, JJ has made the plays, and probably would have gotten his numbers up if Crowton had called more and better plays in the Vanderbilt game as well. Not to mention that if JJ can’t make the plays, then whose fault is that anyway, JJ’s or his coach? I think it reflects a hell of a lot more on Crowton’s coaching skills than it does on JJ’s skills!

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I'm not expecting him to throw for 200-250 every game. But these are the easier teams we're playing here and he just can't get it going despite everything working in his favor.


You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that JJ can’t get his production up unless Crowton stops being so God Damn conservative.

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We need some sort of downfield threat like we saw with the Jefferson to Randle connection in game 1.


Exactly right, yet you act like that is JJ’s fault. Indeed, I would have thought that after that first one worked so perfectly, that by this time Crowton would have made similar calls at least half a dozen times if not more already, but I was wrong again with respect to Crowton, as that was the only time he’s made that call. Not to mention that is clear that JJ is going through his progressions a lot better and moving around in the pocket far better than he did last year.

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We aren't going to beat Bama, Florida, Auburn or Arkansas throwing for under 100 yards in these games.


But that’s not Jefferson’s fault, that’s Crowton’s fault. JJ can only run the plays that he is given.


Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:20 pm to
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ou post the same shite over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over trying to sell people that our qb has little to nothing to do with the fact that our offense is bad


Our offense isn't bad dumb arse, Crowton is bad. I don't post the same shite over and over like you post frick JJ let's play JL anyway he has been a disaster ad nauseum!

And as for as getting under your skin, that's what I try to do with everyone of my posts!
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49043 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:25 pm to
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You cant blame this all on Crowton. Where was everyone blaming Crowton in 2007 with Matt Flynn at QB and our offense setting school records? I'm not saying Crowton doesn't deserve any of the blame, but to blame it solely on Crowton assuming Jefferson is a DECENT QB looks to be pretty ignorant to this point.


Crowton didn't install his option route offense until after the 2007 season. We've had two QBs "run" Crowton's offense - Jefferson and Lee.

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For one HALF Jefferson had it going. Remember we didn't score a single point against UNC's depleted and no depth defense in the 2nd half. These are some of the least talented defenses Jefferson will see most of the year in UNC's 2nd/3rd team, Vandy and MSU.


Dude, he was 6 for 8 in the second half and drove us into the redzone three times. Ridley fumbled twice in the redzone and we had back to back ten yard penalties on the other trip. Granted, his intentional grounding was a terrible decision, but other than that, you have to reach to criticize him.

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Maybe it DOES have to do with Jefferson


Did you forget how bad Lee played in Crowton's offense in 2008?

Lee's ability to move the offense is so completely overstated on this board. We were trailing teams by more than 14 points in the second half FIVE TIMES in 2008. The 2008 offense was able to rack up a ton of garbage yards at the end of games when teams went into prevent mode. Even then, the difference in passing yardage per game between 2008 and 2009 is only 15 yards.

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. Once again, not blaming just Jefferson like you just want to blame Crowton, but you cant put ALL the blame on Crowton. Jefferson has a history of not being a good downfield passer.


Jefferson had more 25+ yard completions in 2009 than Lee in 2008 and Flynn in 2007. Our offensive scheme is just not geared to throwing the ball down the field.

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No, it's obviously not just that. I've watched every game too and JJ clearly has made mistakes and had his fair share of misfires.


Sure. so does every QB.

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There's no reason to blame just Crowton for the last 4.5 halves of mediocre offensive football.


At point are people going to realize that this is par for the course for Crowton's offense? THIS IS HOW HIS OFFENSES PRODUCE.

Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

Our offense isn't bad dumb arse
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:28 pm to
Man I fricking hate this garbage scheme after watching other teams play.
Posted by jim712
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
1520 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:30 pm to
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Want to see something funny?

Go to the dial and set it to 2006 and look for Dennis Dixon (hint: He's #70)

Now, flip it to 2007, the year after Crowton left Oregon, and see where he is. (Hint: He's #3).


Yeah. I've heard this noted on many occasions. Also similar comments made about his other stops. I honestly don't think our offense will really be productive again until he is replaced.

Given what we are actually doing on offense (options, keepers, the occasional throw), I wonder what Russell Shepherd could do behind center? It would certainly be at least equal to what is going on now and would probably be much better as he can take it to the house himself. Remember this is not the NFL.
Posted by Simpkjo
West Monroe
Member since Jun 2007
2933 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:34 pm to
I think dead fish is actually JJ!
Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7657 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:40 pm to
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I think dead fish is actually JJ!

+1
Only JJ himself could be this delusional.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:42 pm to
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Why do you say "JJ" can't get ot going. The lack of a passing game in the last outing had nothing to do with JJ's ineptness. If you don't call pass plays then, duh it isn't going to get going. Passing game worked when they decided to throw this past game.

...and why put the ball in the air when your defense is holding the opponent to one score?

I don't know if anyone noticed, but LSU has quietly gone from 67th in scoring defense to 5th nationally.

That's a championship caliber defense - and a championship caliber special teams. Ball security on offense. That's all they need to focus on at this point, and that's pretty much what they've done in the past couple games.
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