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re: JD5 will have his hardest year next year and this is why.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:08 pm to BayouCowboy
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:08 pm to BayouCowboy
[quote]to Taylor between defenders for a TD ....dude this should be and is routine play from a darn qb even if they cant read a darn secondary....omg... lol..
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:09 pm to Thacian
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Who would YOU rather at qb right now?.. JD5 or Joeyb?
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Nough said.
You rode the short bus to school didn’t you? Of course I’d rather have the guy that already won the Heisman and lead a team to the Super Bowl to ANY college QB right now genius.
However looking just at their college career are you saying you’d rather have Mettenberger than Hurts or Bryce Young? You wouldn’t have wanted Vince Young? Deshaun Watson or Lamar Jackson? Please note I’m not saying Daniels is close to as good as those guys, who are all timers but this idea you can’t win without a “pocket passer” is absurd and antiquated.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:12 pm to QB
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Facts are difficult for many on the rant.
Especially the “fact” that message board posters are better judges of talent than professional coaches who get to watch the players in practice and interact with them on a daily basis AND who actually have something at stake.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:21 pm to QB
quote:and look jd5 had some good games on his feet but his qb style is not what is best for lsu. Period.
for one, completely agree with your post. Facts are difficult for many on the rant.
I can name 5 dual threat guys who came through here in last 20 yrs. They were all meh and some just down right bad at passing...when you compare jd5 to those guys when it comes to passing, its the same crippled result for the the lsu offense. Lsu offense= 1 dimensional
Whe it counts the most(elite teams)our offense will fail because our passing game will not be respected.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:23 pm to Thacian
Name those 5 dual threats. Interested to hear that.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:25 pm to macaoidh
quote:Did you even bother to look at Hookers stats from 2021 & 2022? I will give you a hint. They are almost identical. 3K passing both years and more TDs in 2021.
Go explain to me Hendon Hooker's progression from 2021 to 2022 and then you can make these arguments
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:26 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:id rather Mett all day , davey all day, flynn all day, russell(jr yr) all day over jd5. They are pocket pass quarterbacks who know how to read a defense. Your point doesnt make sense because none of those "other" players played at lsu.
Mettenberger than Hurts or Bryce Young? You wouldn’t have wanted Vince Young? Deshaun Watson or Lamar Jackson? Please note I’m not saying Daniels is close to as good as those guys, who are all timers
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:28 pm to GetmorewithLes
quote:I have seen the 200 yard against Georgia argument thrown out a lot.
I saw comments about he had 200 yds passing against UGA in first half but we only got 10 points out of it.
Thing is they won’t explain that 50 of those yards came on a 10 yard pass to Boutte and Boutte did all the work.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:30 pm to Thacian
You don’t even know what “read a defense” means
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:30 pm to Thacian
quote:He won the Alabama game by passing to Mason Taylor in OT.
name one game where JD5 had to win by using his passing "talents" to win.
I agree with your talking points though.
He'll have to drastically improve his passing efficiency in 2023.
Our main fear is that Nussmeier and Howard will leave before the 23 season starts and the QB Room will be Daniels and Collins.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:31 pm to Thacian
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but his qb style is not what is best for lsu. Period.
Amazing that you can see this but the professional coaches whose livelihood depends on how the team does can’t. What a tragedy you didn’t pursue a career in coaching instead of Walmart greeter
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They were all meh and some just down right bad at passing
If they were bad passers then they aren’t “dual” threat. Guys who can’t run can also be bad passers, just because a guy can run doesn’t mean he can’t pass.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:40 pm to DBG
quote:i dont wanna hurt your feelings bro. Im not falling for your agenda. Everyone can name 6 or more who came through here were just bad for lsu and in some instances ended up not even playing qb. If you do your research you can actually name nfl qbs and other top college qbs who chose other schools because of lsu being known for you know, not recruiting a pocket guy.
Name those 5 dual threats. Interested to hear that.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:41 pm to Thacian
HELL YEAH BROTHER INTERCEPTIONS ARE BASICALLY PUNTS
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:42 pm to Thacian
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If you do your research you can actually name nfl qbs and other top college qbs who chose other schools because of lsu being known for you know, not recruiting a pocket guy.
Name them
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:47 pm to Thacian
What agenda? I want to hear your 5 names because I suspect you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:51 pm to Thacian
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d rather Mett all day , davey all day, flynn all day, russell(jr yr) all day over jd5.
Here's your first problem because none of those guys are your choices. Your choices are Daniels, Nussmirer and Howard. You are chasing romanticized visions of QBs past based on some silly notion that a QB must be a statue to be a good passer. You are a prisoner of the moment blinded by dislike for Daniels because thats fresh in your mind. Go look at the stats for some of those guys again and compare to Daniels. A lot closer than you realize.
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They are pocket pass quarterbacks who know how to read a defense. Your point doesnt make sense because none of those "other" players played at lsu.
if you think those players would not have worked at LSU because only a certain type of QB works here then its you who makes no sense.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:52 pm to TrouserTrout
What he needs to do is what every good QB does. See open receivers downfield while scrambling. He’s also not very good at seeing them while in the pocket, holds the ball way too long and has to throw it up when in single coverage.
Honestly It’s all mental he needs to watch tons of tape of Burrow and other great QBs and hope something sticks.
Honestly It’s all mental he needs to watch tons of tape of Burrow and other great QBs and hope something sticks.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:58 pm to Thacian
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Im not falling for your agenda. Everyone can name 6 or more who came through here
in other words you can't name them, you are just making shite up.
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do your research you can actually name nfl qbs and other top college qbs who chose other schools because of lsu being known for you know, not recruiting a pocket guy.
speaking of agenda's. Les Miles did a terrible job of recruiting QBs, we did not miss out on someone because we didn't recruit "pocket" QBs Miles recruited those too, (Rivers, Rettig, Brennan off the top of my head) he just was terrible at evaluating/developing them.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
Yet they keep winning championships, Burrow, Bennett, Lawrence and others have won around 15 of the last 20 championships.
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