re: Jarvis Landry on the front page of Drudge Report NOT kneeling.

I think me and you should hang out!

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Regardless of your last quote, the South was against paying outrageous taxes and just as the colonies were against Britain.

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the colonies had no representation.

the confederates didnt.

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Guess you don't think outside if your text books.

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Other Lincoln quotes:

"I have no purpose directly or indirectly to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."

"Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people. As long as blacks continue to live with the whites they constitute a threat to the national life. Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man."

anyway neither of us is gonna change our position.

i respect your opinion.

youre a dang good poster and i usually agree with things you post.

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That's my entire point. It wasn't out of some moral opposition to slavery, and the war wasn't over slavery. Thanks. 

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yeah after the war started. once someone turns into a traitor, you do everything to weaken their ability to wage war. its been done in every single american war.

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As far as the traitors part, the entire United States was founded by traitors in the same way.

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but they werent betraying the flag that so many are up in arms about.

the confederates did.

thats my only part.


its been nice having a cordial back and forth without making unprovoked personal attacks because we dont agree with each other.

WOw, a six-page argument about the Civil War, in a thread about the NFL protests over racism....

Sort of proves my point I made in a FB argument over the NFL protests: The people that are most upset about "NFL players disrespecting the US flag" are the exact same group of people waving the Confederate flag of treason and pissing and moaning about their beloved Confederate monuments being taken down.

Thanks, guys!

Ok, I've read this whole thread, and let me start by saying that I'm proud of Landry for not kneeling during our National Anthem.

That said, I couldn't help but notice that none of these other NFL players were kneeling last year. I saw a video of Mark Ingram stating that his kneeling was a silent protest for justice and equality. Ok, I gotta call bullshite on this. They were protesting Donald Trump, so all this holier than thou crap about justice and equality, is what it is. bullshite! Not talking about Kap and his protest. It was probably a legit protest against social equality and justice. Instead of this protest, let's all try to find legitimate ways of bringing all Americans together, that will throw love over all these Americans that simply love to fight, argue, and promote hate.

What scares me (more for my kids and grand kids) is what these protests are doing to our country. Already during this discussion, we've had readers from different points of view, threatening to meet up and fight. Can you even see that the rest of these protest groups are trying to start another civil war...and it's working. White Nationalist, KKK, Black Lives Matters, the new black panthers antifa are all looking to divide this country and have another civil war. These groups and many more are stirring the hate war every chance they get. And there are other Larger parties involved that wish to remain nameless who are pushing for us to go to war with ourselves. These groups have a much higher plan of attack. It's all about money and power for these groups. They want to start a civil war so they can declare Marshall Law. which would help to create a one world government

I was born and still reside in Southern Miss, just a short drive from Biloxi, the Capitol of the Confederacy. I have no views on moving Confederate statues to museums or to National Military Parks or War museums. I wouldn't waste my time protesting to have them brought down or for them to be left alone. It's all symbolism over substance and in the end, will cause far more deaths in this great country of ours.

You would think that our government would be finding ways to bring everyone together and stop the Hatred that is growing like an epidemic and falling over to message boards like this.

I do pray for this country to heal. Most of us are getting along fine. We have multi ethnic dear friends of different beliefs, cultures, and backgrounds. We talk a lot about "How can we put a stop to hatred.

I can think of only one way to counteract hate, and that is to:

(which is a great topic to discuss next week)

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A group of people who get paid millions of dollars to play a game are protesting because they are oppressed.

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Dude, not one single player has said that they were protesting being personally oppressed....making a few million dollars will get de white folk to treat you better than they do poor people!