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re: Jarrett Lee Could Be Scary with the WR Talent this year

Posted on 7/23/10 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Lee


Care to try again?
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:00 pm to
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Posted by PhiAlph279923
Metry Brah
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:01 pm to
Just cause dude set the record for pick 6 dosn't mean he will do it again. Sure, he may have a tendency to throw them but that's what you get with a gunslinger at QB. The Original poster was correct in saying Jarret would be better suited to throw the ball around to our 5 star recievers.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:02 pm to

One thing about Lee is we would move the ball up and down the field with him at quarterback.

Problem is if the coaches don't design good plays and call the right play at the right time we might spot the team a few points as well.

Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:03 pm to
thats what I've been trying to say and catching hell for
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49091 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:04 pm to
What are you talking about?

The post I responded to said that Jefferson didn't throw the ball downfield. I simply asked which quarterback - Jefferson or Lee - had more down-the-field completions in their respective season. He answered "Lee." I suggested that he try again.

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The Original poster was correct in saying Jarret would be better suited to throw the ball around to our 5 star recievers.


Of course, I whole-heartedly disagree with this. But it wasn't the topic at hand.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:06 pm to
Can we just link this thread to the other Jefferson/Lee threads that pop up every day that way everyone is not repeating the same rhetoric over and over?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:07 pm to
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One thing about Lee is we would move the ball up and down the field with him at quarterback.


You must not have been in the thread yesterday where I showed this to not be true.

If you compare the average passing yards per game with Lee and Jefferson, the difference was .2 yards per game.

The running game (or lack there of in 2009) was 90% of the difference between the offenses in 2008 and 2009.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49091 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Can we just link this thread to the other Jefferson/Lee threads that pop up every day that way everyone is not repeating the same rhetoric over and over?


Meh, its the summer and I don't feel like working. What else do I have to do?
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49840 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:09 pm to
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The running game (or lack there of in 2009) was 90% of the difference between the offenses in 2008 and 2009.

running games only succeed when a team call have a passing threat

Defenses sold out on the run last year and it resulted it shitty rush yards ans lots of sacks

they passing yards were the same b/c that was ALL of our offense last year and 1/2 of the offense in 08
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:10 pm to
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Meh, its the summer and I don't feel like working. What else do I have to do?




Lets all come up with better topics...
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49091 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:13 pm to
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running games only succeed when a team call have a passing threat


Not true. If a team lacks the ability to run the ball (as we did in 2009), then its the passing game that suffers, not vice versa.

You would have a point if teams were loading up the box to stop the run because we couldn't pass the ball. But that didn't happen last year. Teams hardly ever put more than seven in the box against us. They would drop four to five in coverage every play to stop the pass because they knew they could stop the run with 6-7 in the box.

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Defenses sold out on the run last year and it resulted it shitty rush yards ans lots of sacks


Not at all. Go back and rewatch games. Defenses rarely put more than seven in the box, even on obvious rushing downs.

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they passing yards were the same b/c that was ALL of our offense last year and 1/2 of the offense in 08


You can look at any way you want to, but most football will disagree with you. A good running game normally increases passing yardage (see our 2003 and 2007 teams), not the other way around.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49840 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:16 pm to
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Not true. If a team lacks the ability to run the ball (as we did in 2009), then its the passing game that suffers, not vice versa.
it does work both ways

thats the way football works



unless youre Peyton Manning you cant strickly pass the ball to win
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49091 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:18 pm to
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Lets all come up with better topics...


Well, I'm renovating my bathrooms by myself. It kind of sucks. Removing old plumbing hardware is about to give me a stroke. Want to discuss it?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:18 pm to
If you can't run the ball in the sec, you won't fare very well.

Fact.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49840 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:19 pm to
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If you dont have a ballanced attack in the sec, you won't fare very well.

Fact.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49091 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

it does work both ways

thats the way football works


Absolutely. Each benefits the other. It's why balanced football is the best approach. But our passing game was suffering because of a lack of a running game last season. We could not keep the defense near the trenches because we were no threat to run the ball. Instead, we were having to throw into nickel coverages on 2nd and 5s.



unless youre Peyton Manning you cant strickly pass the ball to win
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49840 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:22 pm to
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But our passing game was suffering because of a lack of a running game last season
I see it opposite though
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49091 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:26 pm to
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I see it opposite though


Even though the 2008 and 2009 passing games were statistically similar?

I know I'm far removed from algebra but I remember something about constants and variables.
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
6210 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 2:26 pm to
if "scary" means scaring the shite out of lsu fans, then i would agree with you...
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