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re: Jajuan Johnson now a QB.

Posted on 2/16/25 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/16/25 at 8:44 pm to
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One was brought in as a QB, the other was converted to fill a spring need. If our transfer QB can't beat out a convert then LSU has a serious talent evaluation problem and bigger issues than QB


Jajuan is a qb. And he’s a damn good athlete
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:23 pm to
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He wasn’t the starting QB in 2006 when he had 5 TD passes in 33 attempts and 8 rushing TDs.


I didn't realize he was known as a wildcat QB. Congrats to Tebow for winning the Heisman as a wildcat QB and not as a starting QB.
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 1:24 pm
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:01 pm to
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I didn't realize he was known as a wildcat QB.


Did you miss the part that said IN 2006, when he was a freshman backup who absolutely was a “wildcat QB” before the term really took hold. He came in in red zone packages mostly as a run threat, but also with an ability to beat you with the jump pass.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:13 pm to
He’s got a package for spring ball. The defense needs dual threat reps lol
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:04 pm to
No I read that but once again, he was not known as a Wildcat QB due to his small sampling size at that position. I specifically excluded Tebow for that reason and still do. I repeat that J Johnson has the potential to be the best wildcat QB ever because 1) he can actually pass which almost none of the others can and 2) he will never be known as a starting QB
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:47 pm to
“It was that bad of an injury?”

Did you see the pictures of the vehicle and tree.. hopefully he is recovering and back.. story sure did die fast.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:20 pm to
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No I read that but once again, he was not known as a Wildcat QB due to his small sampling size at that position.


He was the backup brought in in red zone situations to run a wildcat offense. I’m not really sure how else you would categorize him in his freshman year. The frequency of his utilization in that capacity certainly was not a small sample size compared to most other players deployed in that manner.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:59 am to
Once again, a small sampling size in one year does not qualify Tim Tebow remotely as potentially the best wildcat QB in college football history. J Johnson has a legit chance to be considered that IF he is given the opportunity over MULTIPLE seasons in that role. And I think most of us know that J Johnson's chances of ever becoming the LSU starting QB barring injuries to multiple QBs ahead of him on the depth chart is pretty tiny. Potential starting QBs don't usually start off in the secondary, move to RB during his first season, etc.
Posted by Lowes knowsLSU
Texas
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:03 pm to
Ah maybe but he can't lmop or xyz dip or sip
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:18 pm to
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Once again, a small sampling size in one year does not qualify Tim Tebow remotely as potentially the best wildcat QB in college football history.


What do you consider a good sample size for a wildcat QB? Most are only used in a handful of plays per game and not often for a full career.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:42 pm to
I'm going mostly by reputation. I watch a lot of college football and I don't even remember Tebow as a wildcat QB when he was a backup but I'll take your word for it. What I remember him for is winning the Heisman as a starting QB. BTW, this is from Wikipedia.

" (2006) :He made his college debut coming off the bench in a goal line situation against Southern Miss. He rushed for a touchdown on a designed quarterback scramble on his first play....."He finished 2006 with the second-most rushing yards on the Gator team."

That LAST sentence doesn't sound like a wildcat QB to me. It sounds like part of a QB platooning situation during the entire season. My entire sentiment is based on being a TRUE wildcat QB, NOT part of a platooning situation under any conditions on the field (e.g. having an entire series to himself). My guess is he was more of that than he was a true wildcat QB. Johnson would be a true wildcat QB. An obvious difference is I wouldn't expect Johnson to be 2nd on the QB depth chart but might very easily be only one of 2 QBs to play in the game unless Nussmeier got hurt and the real 2nd stringer had to come in (Van Buren).

I would guess you would agree that barring crazy injury circumstances, Johnson will never start one game for LSU. Tebow started dozens for Florida.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 1:46 pm
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:39 pm to
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That LAST sentence doesn't sound like a wildcat QB to me. It sounds like part of a QB platooning situation during the entire season. My entire sentiment is based on being a TRUE wildcat QB, NOT part of a platooning situation under any conditions on the field (e.g. having an entire series to himself).


It wasn’t a platoon. Chris Leak had 365 pass attempts. Tebow had 33 attempts plus 89 rushes (to 77 for Leak). He didn’t come in for entire offensive series except in mop up duty a few times. Most of his snaps were in the red zone and, in particular, inside the 10. He was very much deployed the way you are thinking wildcat QBs are utilized.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 2:40 pm
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