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re: Jacques Doucet is saying big names with big money want Jones

Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by beaumont livingston
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

trent basically ruined any chance of a 1 year turn around with his lazy arse recruiting.


His crappy timing of leaving ruined a 1 year turnaround more than anything.
Posted by CerealKilla
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:14 pm to
Seriously, why would Scott Drew ever leave Baylor? Whatever we offer, Baylor will match. He has a consistent tourney team, and is at a school where football is weak. He is king of the castle, so to speak, at Baylor. What does LSU offer that Baylor will not?
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:16 pm to
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Seriously, why would Scott Drew ever leave Baylor? Whatever we offer, Baylor will match. He has a consistent tourney team, and is at a school where football is weak. He is king of the castle, so to speak, at Baylor. What does LSU offer that Baylor will not?


So because of that, we shouldn't even offer him? And settle for a mediocre Sun Belt coach instead?
Posted by CerealKilla
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:17 pm to
Why would you leave a consistent top tourney team to go to a school where basketball has been 3rd string for 10 years? Put yourself in that guys shoes.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:18 pm to
timing was shitty as well but i dont know when the tcu job opened up.

joe really should have canned tj after the nit arse whipping.
Posted by CerealKilla
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:19 pm to
Would it make you feel better if he turned us down then we hired Johnny Jones?
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:20 pm to
id feel better if drew,dixon,marshall,and smart turned us down before we settled for jones.

he isn't a bad coach but why not make the big names say no before we settle on a coach?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87280 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:20 pm to
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Why would you leave a consistent top tourney team to go to a school where basketball has been 3rd string for 10 years? Put yourself in that guys shoes.


Once again, I'll ask: Is that a legitimate reason to not even approach him?

You don't know what motivates the guy. Maybe he'd look upon it as a new challenge.

If we don't at least TRY to bring in a big name before settling for second tier, then your assessment of the state of the program just becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. We'll stay mired in mediocrity.
Posted by Merlin08
Member since Apr 2012
1760 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:23 pm to
I have been hearing the same things from alot of alumni some directly associated with basketball. They all saying "We need an LSU and Jones is that man!" Alot of Daddy Dale pushing weight around...this hire would be worse than Trent
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:25 pm to
I'm thinking Jac Doucet would be one of the last people to get a scoop on anything LSU.

Plus, Joe seems to have no ties with DB or CT.

As with the last 2 basketball hires, it will probably be some one that has not been mentioned as a real possibility as of now.

Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:25 pm to
I just look at it from the perspective of "What does Alleva need to do with this hire?"

His 1st hire was a failure.

A little more than a year ago, he was at odds with Miles, calling him out via statement, which reflected poorly on him as well.

I don't think, at this point, he has the unwavering trust of the LSU fanbase.

So what does he need to to win the fans? The Basketball program is in need of serious re invigoration. Can Johnny Jones bring that? Maybe.

Could Bruce Pearl, Scott Drew, or Tim Floyd? Absolutely. Now, Pearl is naturally eliminated due to his other issues, but I still think Drew/Floyd would be attractive candidates. Floyd is probably attainable, and I feel the amount of negative PR that would come with hiring him would be overruled by the amount of excitement he would immediately bring.

Alleva needs to "win" this hire. And Johnny Jones wouldn't be a PR win. Now, could it turn out to be a "winning hire?" Sure. But there's a lot of risk involved with that, IMO.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Member since Dec 2008
32741 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:27 pm to
Hiring from "within the family" is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, which is why I am shocked at how many schools do it.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:27 pm to
Hire Bryce Drew and don't look back.

Dude was born in Baton Rouge.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Member since May 2004
18288 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:28 pm to
Abram Booty tried to get me in Primerica.
Posted by TemplarTheSaint
The Vatican
Member since Oct 2011
704 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:28 pm to
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I think Collis Temple has a very inflated opinion of how much leverage he has. And from my view he's not at all afraid to wield that perceived leverage.


Outside of East Baton Rouge, what has he been able to deliver? Very overrated. Collis Temple, Jr only looks after one man, Collis Temple, Jr
Posted by c on z
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Member since Mar 2009
130237 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:29 pm to
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Hiring from "within the family" is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, which is why I am shocked at how many schools do it.


The only within the family success I can remember is from the Bennett family.
Posted by CerealKilla
Member since Jan 2011
6098 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:33 pm to
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But there's a lot of risk involved with that, IMO.


Oh absolutely because if this hire goes south, we could be irrelevant in Men's Basketball.
Posted by TimT
Tiger Stadium on Saturday Nights
Member since Feb 2006
733 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

"Problem is that the majority of LSU fans don't want Johnny Jones!"


How do you know what the majority of LSU fans want. The majority of fans are not on this rant, they REALLY go to the games.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293373 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:40 pm to
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id feel better if drew,dixon,marshall,and smart turned us down before we settled for jones.


Programs really don't like the appearance of being turned down. Most of the discussion will be done in private between agents most likely. Before offering, I imagine LSU will know who will take the job or not.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5242 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:41 pm to
Scott drew?
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