I've never heard of this B.Ball violation.....from Advocate

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Are you sure? I never heard of this either.

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New rule. Just heard about it while watching the Florida/UK game on ESPN the other night.

New rule and I like it.

If Cookiman (Greg Cook) RIP was playing today he would be in violation after every rebound.

RULE 9/ VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES

Section 13. Elbow(s)
Art. 1. A player shall not excessively swing his or her arm(s) or elbow(s),
even without contacting an opponent.

Art. 2. A player may extend arm(s) or elbow(s) to hold the ball under the
chin or against the body.

Art. 3. Action of arm(s) and elbow(s) resulting from total body movement
as in pivoting or movement of the ball incidental to feinting with it,
releasing it, or moving it to prevent a held ball or loss of control shall not
be considered excessive.


Elbow(s)
A.R. 219. While A1’s try for feld goal is in fight toward Team A’s basket,
B1 violently swings arm(s) and elbow(s) but makes no contact
with any Team A player.

RULING: The official shall sound the whistle immediately; however,
the ball shall not become dead until it is apparent whether the try is
successful. When the try is successful, the basket shall count and the
violation shall be ignored. When the try is unsuccessful, Team A shall
be awarded the ball at a designated spot nearest to where the violation
occurred. When a teammate of A1 committed the same violation, the
ball shall become dead immediately and when the try is successful, the
basket shall not count. The ball shall be awarded to Team B at a desig-
nated spot nearest to where the violation occurred.
(Rule 9-13.1 and 6-6.3)

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I dont quite understand why you wouldnt give a personal foul to a player who's swinging haymakers in a crowd but oh well.

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Because PFs require contact to be made which gives the offending player an advantage. If no contact is made, it's a violation, but not a foul.

I wish I could have seen a replay of the incident. I also missed the incident on ESPN the other day but I heard everyone talking about it. It would have been a great game to watch but I would have been nervous as hell if I was watching most of the dumb plays we made during the game. Glad we pulled one out and got some younger guys some serious playing time towards the end. I believe Storm Warren will grow a lot from this kind of game, especially since he ended it on a good note with that 3 point play and had a dunk thrown in there.

EZE...what have you been up to? I heard no one is working at the old office anymore, that's crazy how things have changed so much in the last 3 years.

It's a good rule. The rule has always been that you could chin the ball with your elbows out and create space by PIVOTING. This got turned into players that wildly swung their elbows. The new clause allows the rule to be used as it was always intended.

Cookieman would plant a foot and rotate his entire body from side to side holding the ball at his chest and both elbows out.

Would this be "violation" today?

Dude could clear some space around him.

The intent of the rule to prevent injury is a good one. However, to be fair to all parties once a player has possession of a rebound then other players should not be allowed to keep swiping at the ball. This often results in no foul called when the refs view it as incidental contact. Someimes this results in a player getting poked in the eye , struck in the jaw, or cut by a fingernail. I know this almost makes for Biddy like basketball, but there has to be balance in the enforcement.