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It's very clear a +1 system is the best way to go.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 7:47 pm
We would get rid of all this rematch bs. We would get rid of all the should Oklahoma state, Virginia tech be in over bama.
In a +1, where just add one more game, we would have #1 LSU vs #4 Virginia tech (or Stanford if tech loses) and #2 bama vs #3 oklahoma state. Or LSU vs maybe Houston and bama vs Stanford if Oklahoma state and Virginia tech lose. If both lsu and bama win in their bowl games then the rematch happens in the +1 game. I don't think any argument could be made that a rematch shouldn't happen at that point. The bcs should really consider making this change for next season.
In a +1, where just add one more game, we would have #1 LSU vs #4 Virginia tech (or Stanford if tech loses) and #2 bama vs #3 oklahoma state. Or LSU vs maybe Houston and bama vs Stanford if Oklahoma state and Virginia tech lose. If both lsu and bama win in their bowl games then the rematch happens in the +1 game. I don't think any argument could be made that a rematch shouldn't happen at that point. The bcs should really consider making this change for next season.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 7:49 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
I agree. I hope it happens but not confident it will.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 7:55 pm to John McClane
Yeah I have no faith that it will happen either, but I've been in favor of it for years.
I know maybe there is a big difference between the 1 and 4 this year, as well as some others, but you can make an argument for them deserving a shot. It also allows for the smaller teams to have a chance to play for a national title. It covers almost every problem with the current system, yet for some reason it's not put into motion.
I know maybe there is a big difference between the 1 and 4 this year, as well as some others, but you can make an argument for them deserving a shot. It also allows for the smaller teams to have a chance to play for a national title. It covers almost every problem with the current system, yet for some reason it's not put into motion.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 7:58 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
frankly I prefer a fully conditional system. If the #3 team is close enough to #1, then the +1 is triggered. This year it makes no sense. In addition, if a team finishes the year with a BCS ranking of 1.000, game over, give them the trophy.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:00 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
This idea has some merit but the players may or may not agree.
Games against really tough opponents, risking serious injury just before you sign a big NFL contract may not appeal quite so much to them.
And that is just getting into the league, where more injury and mayhem awaits.
Yes, as fans we'd love to see it but when I log on to a streaming site I don't risk blowing out my ACL or a C4 fracture.
Games against really tough opponents, risking serious injury just before you sign a big NFL contract may not appeal quite so much to them.
And that is just getting into the league, where more injury and mayhem awaits.
Yes, as fans we'd love to see it but when I log on to a streaming site I don't risk blowing out my ACL or a C4 fracture.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:05 pm to foshizzle
Didn't we just recently bump the regular season from 11 to 12 games? 13 if you play in a Conf championship game. I'd rather 11 game season and plus 1 every year. It's only 2 teams out of over 100 playing that extra game. The playersare competitors and I bet if you ask Oklahoma state, Stanford, Virginia tech they would be all for it.
To the poster who said to end it if there is a .100 on the bcs...that's just dumb, and not what CFB is all about.
To the poster who said to end it if there is a .100 on the bcs...that's just dumb, and not what CFB is all about.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:06 pm to foshizzle
+1 is just a placebo for always wanting something different.
You have a relationship with the BCS but damn, you get into a fight every now and then and can't really agree. Then you see little Miss +1 walking down the street in her short shorts and think "Oh man, that would be great." And when you break up with the BCS and get the +1, and you have LSU-Bama beat the frick out of each other in playoff #1 to the point where they are too worn out to beat Oklahoma who walked over Houston, you'll sit back and say "Damn, that would never had happened if I didn't kick BCS to the curb. She was such a great gal."
I think crunching numbers and thoughts over where the polls may go may have me going a little insane at the moment...
You have a relationship with the BCS but damn, you get into a fight every now and then and can't really agree. Then you see little Miss +1 walking down the street in her short shorts and think "Oh man, that would be great." And when you break up with the BCS and get the +1, and you have LSU-Bama beat the frick out of each other in playoff #1 to the point where they are too worn out to beat Oklahoma who walked over Houston, you'll sit back and say "Damn, that would never had happened if I didn't kick BCS to the curb. She was such a great gal."
I think crunching numbers and thoughts over where the polls may go may have me going a little insane at the moment...
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:08 pm to ForeLSU
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frankly I prefer a fully conditional system.
this is the best solution. two thirds of the championship is human voters anyway...so let these humans decide if we need a +1 or if the BCS is correct.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:08 pm to Eternalmajin
I'm not against the bcs. My argument was keeping the bcs system and tweaking it into a +1. And LSU would not play bama in a plus 1. They would each play another team with the possibility of meeting in the finals.
And you can't act like sec teams aren't used to playing two big time games in back to back weeks.
And you can't act like sec teams aren't used to playing two big time games in back to back weeks.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:12 pm to LSUzealot
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this is the best solution. two thirds of the championship is human voters anyway...so let these humans decide if we need a +1 or if the BCS is correct.
This year, in your opinion, wouldn't a plus 1 be right? You have a #2 who not only didn't win the conference, but didn't win its division either against possibly two other conference champions with the same record as #2.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:13 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
no a +1 is not fair to LSU this year.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:13 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Right, but it also can't be denied the drop off both Bama and LSU had after Nov.5th this year. Both came out flat, playing sluggish. Against WKU and MSU, that was fine. Against a #2 team, not so much, and then you have an all offense/no defense team winning the title and claiming to be the best when they only win due to the destruction from the week before.
I just personally do not think that's the best way to go with it. I also don't think the BCS is anywhere near as bad as everyone seems to think. '04 is the only year it seemed to "get it wrong" and that was more due to preseason polls, not the BCS itself.
I just personally do not think that's the best way to go with it. I also don't think the BCS is anywhere near as bad as everyone seems to think. '04 is the only year it seemed to "get it wrong" and that was more due to preseason polls, not the BCS itself.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:15 pm to LSUzealot
But Alabama sitting at home while we play against uga, and then having to play them again after beating them on their home field is??
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:19 pm to Eternalmajin
I see your argument, and agree with where you are coming from. But to that I say, why does it have to be played in back to back weeks??? Let those two start off the bowl season, and play the final game at the end. That gives a 2-3 week break while the rest of the bowl season goes on.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:19 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
I think it is the most fun the way it is now.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:20 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
This year already is a +1 season. The first championship was on November 5th. The 2nd game is the +1 game. That's the way it's playing out.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:23 pm to RealityTiger
So the +1 is LSU vs Alabama twice??
I don't think you are getting the concept of the +1 I'm talking about.
I don't think you are getting the concept of the +1 I'm talking about.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:30 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
I fully understand the concept of what you're talking about. But to be honest, Bama is going to beat any other team in this country other than LSU, so it's kind of pointless to even pass them through that filter of playing a bowl game.
So, by basic principle - this season has been shaped up to be a +1 type season.
So, by basic principle - this season has been shaped up to be a +1 type season.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:33 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
the more you let in, the more think they deserve to play. we had a 65 team basketball tourney, and sure enough, every year, 4 teams bitch and moan about how they had a better resume then someone who got in. they added a few spots so now 68 get in. true to form, schools still bitched about being left out. the more teams you add, the harder it is to determine who gets in. youll get into the problem like this year. which is better? quality wins? quality loses? what if 2 11-1 teams were in competition for the last spot. one team beat the other, giving it its only loss. that teams only loss was to a 1-11 team. which is better? who gets the nod?
if you have a plus 1 game, allowing 4 teams into a playoff, teams 5, 6, and 7 will complain. 8 team playoff? teams 9-12 bitch. 16 team playoff? teams 17-22 all complain about how theyre deserving. itll never end.
if you have a plus 1 game, allowing 4 teams into a playoff, teams 5, 6, and 7 will complain. 8 team playoff? teams 9-12 bitch. 16 team playoff? teams 17-22 all complain about how theyre deserving. itll never end.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:37 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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We would get rid of all this rematch bs. We would get rid of all the should Oklahoma state, Virginia tech be in over bama.
So, you would advocate LSU having to play yet another top-5 team before facing Bama? Because, I really don't see anyone of those teams beating Bama before there would be another LSU-Bama rematch...
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