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It wasn’t mutual, and we paid the full buyout...

Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:18 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39359 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:18 am
...for Canada to leave. The negotiated $1.7 million that does NOT get diminished by future salary is actually more that the $3 million. Had we just cut him Canada would have been hired for at least $1 million per year, and we would have supplemented $500,000 per year, or $1 million total.

Now, Canada can earn $2 million the next two years by coaching, and he can pocket LSU’s $1.7. That’s $3.7 or $1.85 million per year. Canada just got a $350,000 per year raise. Congratulations, dude
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:21 am to
Sounds about par for the course with the three in charge.
Posted by LSUGoose
Red Stick via St James Parish
Member since Jan 2006
5193 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:26 am to
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Now, Canada can earn $2 million the next two years by coaching


Do you mind if I borrow that crystal ball to place a few bets on NFL football today?
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:28 am to
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The negotiated $1.7 million that does NOT get diminished by future salary is actually more that the $3 million.


Are you drunk?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39359 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:47 am to
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Are you drunk?


No. I read dandydon.com, though.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13976 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:51 am to
The cancer is removed, the cost doesn't matter.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13976 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:51 am to
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Now, Canada can earn $2 million the next two years by coaching


Rutgers won't pay nearly that much.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:54 am to
you sure have some funny math man.

let's see, we owed him 3 million and we paid him 1.7 million. yet you spin to say we paid 3 million (even if the numbers aren't there) and then add in it wasn't mutual. like that matters.

what you people will do to make LSU look bad is worse than what our competitors do.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39359 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:57 am to
The point is that we owed him $3 mm LESS his salary at his next gig.

Now we pay him $1.7 less NOTHING.

The latter is more than the former. Nothing funny about that math, and a clear indicator that this was not mutual.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13976 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:59 am to
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3 mm LESS his salary at his next gig.


His next gig won't pay much.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39359 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 6:59 am to
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what you people will do to make LSU look bad is worse than what our competitors do.


How does this make LSU look bad? The party initiating the split usually looks stronger, right?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39359 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:00 am to
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His next gig won't pay much.


How much do you think?
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5536 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:03 am to
I’m not sure you understand buyouts. Canada was never going to take less than the contract unless he either got a lump sum or was absolved of the reduction v future earnings or both.

There was no reason for him to. It had to be somewhat attractive to him or he would have just accepted the firing and the original terms.

Finally he wanted O out or out of his offense or he wanted out but he wasn’t going to quit.

It was mutual in the sense he didn’t want to work here under the O any more. And if you read DandyDon he said the same thing.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 7:04 am
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7624 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:12 am to
Comprehension is not your best trait
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38787 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:15 am to
We didn't pay full payout

Canada really wanted out or we had something on him not to play full amount
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:15 am to
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The point is that we owed him $3 mm LESS his salary at his next gig.


like the les miles deal? the mythical offset.

you cannot prove that he would have even got another job for a year or two and even so it would probably be in the half a million range.

LSU did well with this buy out settlement.

as far as the mutual crap everyone knows better; it's pr talk. LSU FIRED MATT CANADA.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13976 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:15 am to
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How much do you think?


I really don't care. He's heading back to a mid-major school, where he belongs.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:16 am to
If Canada make 650K a year on his next job plus LSU’s buyout he makes 1.5 mil. We won’t know which side made the better deal until he gets his next job and we find out how much he is getting paid.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 7:20 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39359 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:17 am to
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Canada was never going to take less than the contract unless he either got a lump sum or was absolved of the reduction v future earnings or both.


Or LSU had cause. Your post was essentially the point of my OP. Canada had all the cards, we paid him full buyout, and it was not mutual.

As to my knowledge of contracts of this sort; I deal with them on a weekly basis. Incentives, guaranteed earnings, the mandate that future earnings detract, non-competes are weekly treacle to me. I’m not a lawyer, though, so I’m not an expert.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38787 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:24 am to
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If Canada make 650K a year on his next job plus LSU’s buyout he makes 1.5 mil. We won’t know which side made the better deal until he gets his next job and we find out how much he is getting paid.


Did he definitely have buyout reduce by next job?

Contracts are so convoluted
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