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re: It just doesn't happen here (that often)
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:01 pm to Bourbon Cowboy
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:01 pm to Bourbon Cowboy
quote:Jefferson's QB Rating for the game was 116.28 which is 8 times Lee's QB Rating for the same game. It's also better than or almost equal to Lee's QB Ratings for his first three years: 116.92, 92.87, and 119.92.
I am a big believer in the saying that one play does not make the entire game. for the ENTIRE GAME, jeffersons QBR was 41.2. that is a paltry number
But your post ignores completely some of Jefferson's biggest contributions in the GOTC and the SECCG. He executed the option to Ford brilliantly in both clips. Jefferson made the running game better. Lee was neither a threat to run from the gun, nor a threat on the option.
quote:Yes, Jefferson did.
sure, he made one clutch throw
quote:Because Jefferson was the starter. Lee was the backup who got to play because of circumstances not involving talent. The HC and OC agreed that Jefferson was the starter.
He wanted Jefferson as his starter for the entire season.
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:07 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:
JJ was worse as SR than he was as a fresh. That's not an opinion.
JJ as a Fr. :
Jordan Jefferson 36 73 419 49.3 5.74 4 1 112.9
JJ as a SR.:
Jordan Jefferson 61 100 737 61.0 7.37 6 2 138.7
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:09 pm to Salviati
quote:
Jefferson in the pocket slowed down the Bama rush
And I'm not blaming Jefferson for that. The best way to handle consistent pressure isn't with a mobile QB, it is with a passing QB who is going to deliver quick strikes.
quote:
Lee would have been ineffective.
Maybe so, but Jefferson was too. I like Jefferson and thinks he gets too much hate on here. The problem is that when you have 6-8 quarters of ineffective QB play, it is insanity not to try to switch to the other QB
quote:
But your post ignores completely some of Jefferson's biggest contributions in the GOTC and the SECCG. He executed the option to Ford brilliantly in both clips. Jefferson made the running game better.
Not in the first half. I believe Miles said that he would have pulled Jefferson if it wasn't for the Honey Badger's efforts
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:11 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:The QB Rating for Jefferson's last two games were 83.23 (SECCG) and 79.14 (BCSCG). Both games were more than five times higher than Lee's Bama game in 2011.
JJs last two collegiate football games more than likely rank the lowest in recorded football history.
quote:
I know I was a big JL fanboy
I post about Jefferson only when someone puts out bad information . . . and there's a select group of you who do it a lot.
quote:Yeah, it's pretty obvious why. Jefferson kept their boy Lee on the bench for the most part.
There's a reason why some LSU fans would consider him their least favorite.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:18 pm to Salviati
quote:
Lee was the backup who got to play because of circumstances not involving talent.
and he went 8-0 and led one of the most efficient offenses of that year, while Jefferson pissed it all away in the BCSNCG
I apologize to all for contributing to the hijacking of this thread.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:18 pm to Salviati
quote:
The QB Rating for Jefferson's last two games were 83.23 (SECCG) and 79.14 (BCSCG). Both games were more than five times higher than Lee's Bama game in 2011.
He totaled 83 yards passing on 30 passes. Less then 3 yards per attempt. He had 10 yards on the ground in 20 sacks/attempts. 3 turnovers
It isn't about hating on Jefferson to me. It is about making a change when your QB play is easily ineffective.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:32 pm to Salviati
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The QB Rating for Jefferson's last two games were 83.23 (SECCG) and 79.14 (BCSCG).
I know you struggle with comprehension, but he said rank, not rate
He led his offense to the lowest point total, which RANKED as the worst scoring output in all of BCS championship history. 0 points. Not matched by any team during the BCS era
So yes, he did RANK as the worst starting QB in the BCS game. That is not an opinion.
You come across as a bumbling fool, or a relative of Miles to defend not pulling the worst QB of an entire era
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:40 pm to Salviati
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Both games were more than five times higher than Lee's Bama game in 2011.
Since JJ was a better QB and all in 2011, why did you leave out the season long comparison?
152.04 - Lee
138.71 - jj
Because you are full of shite, thats why.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:45 pm to Bourbon Cowboy
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could Lee come back and win that game? no.
Then who gives a shite?
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:48 pm to League Champs
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So yes, he did RANK as the worst starting QB in the BCS game. That is not an opinion.
That honor belongs to Greg McElroy.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:52 pm to Salviati
Serious question, did you watch his play in those two final games?
JL got yanked in the second quarter.
If we are going to compare apples to apples what's was JJs rating after two quartes vs Uga and Bama?
There's no "bad" information here.
It's people with two eyes and memory.
JL got yanked in the second quarter.
If we are going to compare apples to apples what's was JJs rating after two quartes vs Uga and Bama?
There's no "bad" information here.
It's people with two eyes and memory.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:56 pm to League Champs
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why did you leave out the season long comparison?
Jefferson faced #16 Georgia and was terrible, #2 Alabama and was terrible, and #6 Arkansas and played well.
Lee faced #5 Oregon and played terrible, #2 Alabama and played terrible, #23 WVU and played well, and #25 Auburn and played well.
The truth is that Jefferson faced elite competition in 4 of the 6 games in which he played, and Lee did the same in 4 of 9... which gave him increased opportunity to pad his stats.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:59 pm to chilge1
quote:
Then who gives a shite?
Apparently, those still butt hurt over one of the very best seasons in LSU football history or our drama queens who roam almost every positive thread seeking to find something to bitch and moan bout.
I mean really...some act like we kept a 2013 Mett like guy on the bench in order to play 2010 JJ like guy.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:01 pm to Salviati
quote:
Lee would have been ineffective.
no one knows that
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:24 pm to monsterballads
In 2009 against Alabama, Charles Scott left the game with an injury, Jordan Jefferson left the game with an injury, and Patrick Peterson had the interception that wasn't.
If any of those things change, Jefferson may have been undefeated as a starter against Alabama prior to 1/9.
On the other end, Lee's struggles against this particular team are well documented. 1:7 TD:INT ratio.
There is no reasonable cause to have put Lee in the game when all along, Jefferson was the better matchup for this particular opponent.
I won't say Miles shouldn't have made the switch, but the reality is it would have had no bearing on the outcome.
If any of those things change, Jefferson may have been undefeated as a starter against Alabama prior to 1/9.
On the other end, Lee's struggles against this particular team are well documented. 1:7 TD:INT ratio.
There is no reasonable cause to have put Lee in the game when all along, Jefferson was the better matchup for this particular opponent.
I won't say Miles shouldn't have made the switch, but the reality is it would have had no bearing on the outcome.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:59 pm to chilge1
quote:
The truth is that Jefferson faced elite competition in 4 of the 6 games in which he played, and Lee did the same in 4 of 9... which gave him increased opportunity to pad his stats.
When you have to lie to defend your position, it means you have no leg to stand on. From lsusports
Lee played #3 Oregon, #25 Mississippi, #16 West Virginia, #17 Florida, #19 Florida, and #2 Alabama. Thats 6 ranked teams, not 4
The only unranked teams Lee played against, he had to split time with Mett or JJ. JJ didnt split time with anyone
And yet, Lee still had a higher efficiency for the year
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:09 pm to chilge1
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If any of those things change, Jefferson may have been undefeated as a starter against Alabama prior to 1/9.
SHUT UP.....Get off of JJ's jock....
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:53 pm to chilge1
quote:
On the other end, Lee's struggles against this particular team are well documented. 1:7 TD:INT ratio.
What was the score when JJ left the 2009 Bama game?
quote:
Bama 10 LSU 9
Who was the QB that led LSU to the go ahead TD?
quote:
Stevan Ridley rush over right end for 8 yards, TOUCHDOWN, clock 03:19. Jarrett Lee pass attempt failed.
LSU 15, ALABAMA 10
So Lee took Bama into OT in 2008
Led a go ahead drive in 2009
Sealed the win in 2010
Yet, in 2011, his best year as a Tiger, he wouldnt have contributed??!!
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:59 pm to RobbBobb
Shh... just appease Chige1, he doesn't know how to logic.
He probably thinks AJ 2014 > Lee 2011 because he has such a chub from AJ
He probably thinks AJ 2014 > Lee 2011 because he has such a chub from AJ
Posted on 3/13/15 at 4:00 pm to monsterballads
We don't know it for sure, but there is absolutely nothing about Lee career vs Alabama that indicates he would have had any success.
We should have put in Mett.
We should have put in Mett.
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