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re: It just doesn't happen here (that often)
Posted on 3/11/15 at 2:46 pm to League Champs
Posted on 3/11/15 at 2:46 pm to League Champs
1st year he redshirted, and that counts as he had a whole year to learn the system.
also threw a pick 6 in that game
NO NO NO NO having any kind of comeback in Troy makes it th most pathetic comeback in LSU history
He literally lost us that game single handedly
4 picks: 1 for a TD, 1 put them on the 15, 1 was in overtime.
Third year he did nothing of note.
2010 was his fourth year.
I don't know how you gave him credit for going down by 30 points to Troy state, and giving Alabama the win in 2008.
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Led comeback vs Auburn
also threw a pick 6 in that game
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Led greatest comeback in LSU history vs Troy
NO NO NO NO having any kind of comeback in Troy makes it th most pathetic comeback in LSU history
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Rallied to take Bama into OT
He literally lost us that game single handedly
4 picks: 1 for a TD, 1 put them on the 15, 1 was in overtime.
Third year he did nothing of note.
2010 was his fourth year.
I don't know how you gave him credit for going down by 30 points to Troy state, and giving Alabama the win in 2008.
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Posted on 3/11/15 at 2:57 pm to alumni95
he wasnt ready. people think jennings is the starter for the next 2 years. But Harris has played and started sooner in his career than any recent LSU qb.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 2:58 pm to SammyTiger
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I don't know how you gave him credit for going down by 30 points to Troy state
Someone completely forgot about Malveto, and that Miles substituted JJ in. LSU trailed by 11 when JJ came in
ETA: but like I said, Lee receives no credit for Miles idiot coaching decisions that undermined the kids confidence
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 3:02 pm to GeeOH
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The problem is the starer in front of those guys wasn't the worst statistical qb in the SEC or country.
um, Jamarcus played behind one of the worst QBs in LSU history, Marcus Randall. Shepard, while he shouldn't even be mentioned as he wasn't a QB, "played behind" another one of the worst QBs in LSU history, Jordan Jefferson.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 3:02 pm to League Champs
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Lee receives no credit for Miles idiot coaching decisions that undermined the kids confidence
The way you talk about Lee makes me think that you believe he was a mentally fragile guy.
If true, a player needs thicker skin than that in major college ball.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 3:05 pm to League Champs
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ETA: but like I said, Lee receives no credit for Miles idiot coaching decisions that undermined the kids confidence
i think it was throwing non stop frickin picks that did that. He sucked a freshmen.
and don't blame this all on the defense. the offense didn't do shite until the 4th quarter.
They sucks
It was troy state. I still refuse to just pretend this is a great comeback.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 3:28 pm to lsu2006
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Since we've seen so much of him.
uh yea, an entire season. Also add a prior bowl game where he was the known starter for a month after Mett's injury.
AJ has been in Cam's system for two years now and has plenty of game action. Time to dump the "inexperience" excuse.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 4:07 pm to AngryBeavers
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Lee actually improved. Have seen zero improvement from Jennings.
It's hilarious that you got upvoted, and even more hilarious that you don't really understand what you said HELPS Jennings case!
Question, which year of college did Lee start? Which year did he improve?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 4:31 pm to dgnx6
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he wasnt ready. people think jennings is the starter for the next 2 years. But Harris has played and started sooner in his career than any recent LSU qb.
BINGO!!! We FINALLY have a winner. Only took Page 3. that was the point of the post. However, I agree it won't just be given to him as a Soph. He still needs to EARN it in Spring/Fall. But the fact that CLM/CC actually made the move in the first SEC road game of the year convinces me they have faith in him.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 4:37 pm to ChewyDante
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Yes. I'd take Jarrett Lee any of his seasons in this offense over Jennings. No fricking doubt about it.
Would have to agree. Lee won several games as a RSFreshman with his arm that I just can't imagine the AJ we've seen thus far doing. That's not to say he can't come on like gangbusters this season and next.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 4:49 pm to ChewyDante
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Yes. I'd take Jarrett Lee any of his seasons in this offense over Jennings. No fricking doubt about it.
Look at their stats again. Look at who they were throwing to again and tell me you'd take 2008 OR 2009 Lee over 2014 Jennings.
I can not understand the selective memory of our fanbase.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 4:54 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Look at their stats again
Lee had a lot more responsibility with the complete shitshow that our defense was. That team had to air and out and score points.
Lee
143/269 (53.2%) 1,873 yards 14 TDs, 16 Ints.
Rating - 116.9
-Averaged 170 ypg and broke 200 four times.
Jennings
111/227 (48.9%) 1,611 yards. 11 TDs, 7 Ints
Rating - 118.3
- Averaged 124 ypg and broke 200 once.
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I can not understand the selective memory of our fanbase.
It really isn't much of a gap. Lee threw a much more accurate ball, spread it around, but was turnover prone.
Jennings holds the ball a long time, takes some sacks, but protects the ball. They aren't similar players
Lee would have had a much easier job with the 2014 team
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:02 pm to GeeOH
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The problem is the starer in front of those guys wasn't the worst statistical qb in the SEC or country. AJ damn near was. There is a reason they did not see the field, it meant we had decent guys in front of them. DOES NOT RELATE TO HARRIS'S SITUATION!!
Harris played early because we only had 2 scholarship QBs and Jennings had no experience. Jarrett Lee was horrible in 2008 and JJ didn't start until Lee got hurt.
Lee's QB rating 116.92
Jennings QB rating 118.33
For reference, Hatch's QB rating was 118.43 and he didn't get passed up until he was knocked out of a game.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:10 pm to Datbayoubengal
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For reference, Hatch's QB rating was 118.43 and he didn't get passed up until he was knocked out of a game.
Lee was playing in the Auburn game before Hatch was injured. Lee threw a pick 6, got pulled, and hatch went back in
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:14 pm to ChewyDante
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Jarrett Lee was a good passer. He was put in spread passing offense with a shitty defense and forced to throw a ton. Jarrett Lee in a prostyle balanced O with a good defense was very efficient. But OMG, pick sixes! But you roll with with Jennings after that putrid sophomore season with a terrific running game and solid defense.
You really are a moron
Please look up Lee's 2008 season again. Jennings 49% Lee 53 %
Jennings 227 attempts Lee 269 attempts
Jennings 1611 yards Lee 1873 yards
Jennings 7.1 ypa Lee 7.0 ypa
Jennings 11 TDs Lee 14
Jennings 7 ints Lee 16
Jennings 0 pic 6 Lee 6
Jennings QB rating 118.33 Lee 116.92
WORLD....OOOOOF...DIFFERENCE! !!!!
Experienced pass catchers pre first year starts
Lee
Brandon Lafell, Demetrius Byrd, Richard Dickson, Terrance Toliver
Jennings
Travin Dural
Oh yeah, both had a running game and OL
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:26 pm to Datbayoubengal
SEC Play
Jennings - Lee
Jennings 48% Lee 56%
Jennings 20 attempts/g Lee 25 attempts/g
Jennings 110 Yrds/game; Lee 194
Jennings 5.6 Yrds/Attempt; Lee 7.7
Jennings 4 TDs, Lee 10
Jennings 4 Ints, Lee 13
Jennings 99 Rating, Lee 124
Jennings - Lee
Jennings 48% Lee 56%
Jennings 20 attempts/g Lee 25 attempts/g
Jennings 110 Yrds/game; Lee 194
Jennings 5.6 Yrds/Attempt; Lee 7.7
Jennings 4 TDs, Lee 10
Jennings 4 Ints, Lee 13
Jennings 99 Rating, Lee 124
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:27 pm to dukke v
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A WHOLE season and ZERO improvement.......
Sooooooo..... Jarrett Lee circa 2008? Did we not see the same things circa 2009?
2009, This was Lee's 3rd year in the system, yet no progress.
Bama 4/10 44% 44 yards 1 int
LA Tech 7/22 31.8% 105 yards 1 TD
This was with seniors LaFell and Dickson and junior Toliver who all played at least 2 years prior.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:28 pm to alumni95
I haven't read this thread--I can't stomach too much more of these debates. But to the OP, I've said all season that Harris played more than any true freshman I can remember sans injury. And that's going back probably 30 years. Granted, most true freshman come in with a much more established and productive QB than Jennings, but it's just never been the culture here to play true freshman QBs, much less start them. Under this regime or any other I can think of.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:30 pm to League Champs
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JL in 2008 Game #1 - did not start Game #2 - did not start Game #3 - did not start Game #11 - injured for last half of game Game #12 - did not Play Game #13 - did not Play AJ in 2014 Game #6 - did not start
What does that have to do with anything? You guys aren't even making a point now
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:32 pm to ChewyDante
He was an interception machine as a freshman. He broke records in that regard.
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