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re: It appears that the biggest O supporters are anti Aranda

Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:24 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296954 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

Do you believe system QBs exist?


System QBs are QBs who's yardage is highly inflated by yac.

So, no
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:25 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66540 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:25 pm to
Every qb is a system qb it’s a myth created to knock good players.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78280 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

Simply because one is good as a freshman (rare) doesn't mean they don't improve as the continue. The only way to improve is with experience


I never Said you don’t improve with experience. No matter how many times you say it won’t make it my point.

My point is the same QB will be better
Off in year 1 in a good offense than he will be in year 3 in a bad one.

quote:

No you haven't. Simply because one is good as a freshman (rare) doesn't mean they don't improve as the continue. The only way to improve is with experience


Improve =\= being good.

If you start off shitty and 2 years later your Ok youve improved but you’re still not good.

Put a talented QB in a good system and he’ll play better than if you put the same
QB in a bad system and let him get experience in that bad system.

Do you think Any of our QBs post Flynn reaches their full potential? Even the ones that played 4 years?



This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48017 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

Improve =\= being good. 

If you start off shitty and 2 years later your Ok youve improves 
But you’re still not good. 

Put a talented QB in a good system and he’ll play better than if you put the same 
QB in a bad system and let him get experience in the same bad system. 



Those 2 shite on our offensive talent and then expect them to be great next year because of experience.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48017 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

Every qb is a system qb it’s a myth created to knock good players.


To an extent.

Those June Jones qbs were putting up system statistics.


There are some qbs that will be good in every systems and then there are some that have to play in a certain system to remain productive.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296954 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

Those 2 shite on our offensive talent


Nah you're just a drama queen

Offensive talent isn't bad. Just isn't great and a little inexperienced

quote:

expect them to be great next year because of experience.


The person we were talking about is Burrow, so you're fpdamn right. I expect 3k yards
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48017 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:29 pm to
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System QBs are QBs who's yardage is highly inflated by yac. 

So, no


So colt brennan and timmy chang werent system qbs?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296954 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:30 pm to
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Improve =\= being good.


You're just making stuff up that no one cares about now

You were wrong again, it's common for you. Just accept it, put on your onesie and go mighty night
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48017 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

Nah you're just a drama queen 

Offensive talent isn't bad. Just isn't great and a little inexperienced





You bashed our offense last night.
Said they were overrated and average at best.
I can link you to it if youve wiped your memory.


Roger quotes:

-Troy was more talented than lsu
-southeastern was more talented than lsu
Auburn beating a 6 loss purdue jumpstartrd their program
-our offensive talent is overrated and average at best
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33897 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:32 pm to
quote:

Those 2 shite on our offensive talent and then expect them to be great next year because of experience.



A lack of experience doesn't account for 104th in total offense.

Experience in a shitty offense means you're better at running a shitty offense. Experience isn't some magic elixir, but I'm guessing this is something people will have to see for themselves.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296954 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

So colt brennan and timmy chang werent system qbs?



Absolutely not. Both made NFL teams
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296954 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:35 pm to
quote:

average at best.


Im sorry, Liberace, average isn't bashing.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:36 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78280 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:37 pm to
Your only argument is saying “you’re wrong”

I have Provides over 10 examples in recent years with minimal research.

You’ve done nothing but not understand the concept of relativity.

You’re an idiot and you’ve already punked
Out.

Just provide Some support for your argument or frick off.

But just saying your position again isn’t an argument.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:39 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296954 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

Your only argument is saying “you’re wrong”


Everyone is tired of seeing you get embarrassed. If you don't get it now, you never will
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78280 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:45 pm to
I get players usually get better with experience. Not all do. Some
Players regress or plateau.

It’s still not more Important than actually being in a system that puts you in a position to succeed, and you’ve yet to show me anything to change my Mind.

You’ve just said I’m wrong.

But I’ve pointed out actual examples of me being right.

You can’t even put together an actual aeguement that addresses what I’m
Saying.


Look at CJ McCarron in 2013 or Blake Sims in 2014

Even though Sims threw under 40 passes in his career heading into 2014 and McCarron was a 3rd year starter in 2013, they had basically the same stats.

Why is that?
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:52 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69574 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:51 pm to
I support DA but many O haters refuse to call him out but in the mean time will call out every other coach. I think your theory is the exact opposite...o haters think Aranda is above reproach and the most disturbing thing is thick he should take over the program when it isn’t even known if he wants to be a HC
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296954 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:51 pm to
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I get players usually get better with experience. Not all do


Yes..

And an experienced squad is usually better than an inexperienced squad, all things being equal. I expect LSUs passing game to improve with experience

Experience is very important. Baby steps
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:53 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78280 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:53 pm to
It’s not more Important than having a good system.

Bad coaching will negate experience. If the play you’re executing isn’t good it doesn’t matter how good you are at executing it.

Miss State brought back 4/5 OL, their 5th year QB with 2 years starting under his belt. Their leading rusher and they SUCKED on offense. They were worse in total Offense and scoring offense.

Again, just so you know, this is me crushing your argument and you will respond by being a bitch and bringing nothing to the table
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 11:59 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296954 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:00 am to
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It’s not more Important than having a good system.


A great system with all Freshmen is going to struggle. Just the way it is.

Why do players practice?

If experience don't matter that much
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78280 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 12:09 am to
so Joe is this bad with all this practice experience? He’s a RS Junior Or are you now changing your arguement?

So far I’ve shown you teams where freshmen start and are successful
Teams where people with almost no game experience start and are successful
Players who made enormous jumps in performance once a new offense is brought in.
Teams with lots of experience who regressed when a new system was brought in.

You’ve just says freshmen can play.

I dont Think you’re winning this argument man.

This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 12:15 am
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