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re: Is Miles the best running game coach in college football?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:13 am to say when
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:13 am to say when
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The words Miles, best and coach should never be used in the same sentence.
How the frick are you not banned? I've never seen you add anything to this site except for hating on Miles and LSU. You never actually discuss sports
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:38 am to sabanisarustedspoke
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Not even remotely close. We run the same running play 30 times a game. We just have the best back in the country running it most of the time.
We actually run a lot of different plays out of different formations. If you knew football you would recognize that. It is a very complex running game, esp for O-lineman.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:05 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
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We actually run a lot of different plays out of different formations. If you knew football you would recognize that. It is a very complex running game, esp for O-lineman.
True. Too many people act like there isn't any scheming done in the run game. If teams throw it all over the yard with success their coaches are geniuses. If they run it down another team's throat consistently they are boring, conservative, or whatever other adjective you want to use.
Cam Cameron's offenses have always been highly productive in the run game. Yes, he's had great backs. It would also be hard to argue he doesn't play a role in that success.
The year after Cameron left San Diego, Tomlinson went from 1815 yards rushing and 28 TDs to 1,474 and 15 TDs. No, San Diego didn't throw more the next years as Rivers actually had seven fewer attempts the next year.
The year after Cameron left Baltimore, Ray Rice went from 1,143 yards and nine TDs to 660 yards and 4 TDs. FLacco threw 45 more times but his TD to INT ratio went from 20-12 the year his last year under Cam to 19 TDs and 22 INTs his first year without Cam.
Even the disastrous year Cameron was in Miami, Ronnie Brown only played in seven games before getting hurt and averaged 86.0 rushing yards per game. He averaged 57.3 the year after Cameron was fired.
While a freshman, Jeremy Hill averaged 5.3 yards per carry. The next year, with Cameron, he averaged 6.9. He had 754 more yards from scrimmage (1,582 up from 828) in only 71 more touches.
Coaches can absolutely make a difference in the run game. It's not all about talent.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:13 pm to Erin Go Bragh
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Sorry, that's funny
You are right. The running game consists of ONLY the running backs. Thanks for correcting me.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:14 pm to RedTigerRulz
Like I said yesterday, LSU "fans" are now changing the argument to Les is only winning because of Leonard Fournette. No credit at all given to the coach by the mouth breathers.
You would think after 11 years of the most successful run in program history, these morons would learn.
You would think after 11 years of the most successful run in program history, these morons would learn.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:15 pm to gerkin
I find it laughable how the haters pop off and say, we run the same running plays. You dont have to always fool the defense, just block them. Hell, Auburn only ran 5 plays the last few years and the whole damn nation was ready to claim the Gus Bus as a genius. Now that them 5 plays dont work, he is on the hot seat. Smoke and mirrors come and go, blocking and tackling get the job done consistently.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:18 pm to BeeFense5
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You would think after 11 years of the most successful run in program history, these morons would learn.
Broken record much?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:20 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Broken record much?
That's all he is........
My take.... Miles is a top 5 coach in the country and I am STILL waiting for someone to tell me who could come in ad do a better job NOT named Saban or Meyer.............
Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:22 pm to LesMiles BFF
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I wonder why you guys won't acknowledge the fact that with the running game we have, 75-150 yards passing is we need.
So our competition won't get better and we'll be playing Syracuse, Mississippi state and auburn level teams all season?
When was the last team to pass at 75-100 ypg rate and won the national championship? Just curious.
Do you think this team is better than the 2011 team that lost 21-0 to Alabama in the MNC?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:40 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Do you think this team is better than the 2011 team that lost 21-0 to Alabama in the MNC?
as an overall team? no, not even close. But that team didn't have Fournette. Fournette is the x factor that is going to make this team better. Plus, this team has more development potential as the season progresses also especially on offense. Lot of young guys that are growing under fire: Harris, Dupre, Diarse, Jeter, Guice, Teuhuma, etc. By the end of the season this team is going to be very tough for anyone to beat.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 12:41 pm to dukke v
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I am STILL waiting for someone to tell me who could come in ad do a better job NOT named Saban or Meyer.............
Well I'd say Briles/Patterson but ONLY because I like that style of offense. Could they recruit as well as Miles? Who knows but they have built their respective programs into national contenders.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 1:21 pm to tigerskin
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Have to be pretty good at it when everyone expects it and can still get your linemen to make a hole and running backs to get through it.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 1:28 pm to tigerskin
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No we have not had a bunch of elite talent on the OL over the last decade. If you think so give me all those names.
Yep. Also, who are all these super- special RBs we've had? I don't see many LSU RBs lighting up the NFL.
What we have had, is consistently very good players at those positions and a dedication to making he run game work. This means attention to boring-arse fundamebtals and a lotta stuff that doesn't really show on TV.
Best rushing coach? I don't really know, but he really is very good at it.
Especially if you think deeper than the folks here who believe " up the middle" is a play.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 4:31 pm to Uncle Luke
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Hell, Auburn only ran 5 plays the last few years
Exactly. That's why it's laughable when yoh see posters on this site saying our playbook isn't creative. For the last 6 years Oregon ran the same exact play 50% of the game and they were and have been one of the best offense in cfb. In cfb offensive success is about executing. Coaches don't have enough,on the field, practice time to be implementing a bunch of new plays every week.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 4:32 pm to yallallcrazy
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don't see many LSU RBs lighting up the NFL.
Ridley was decent for a couple of years, Hill is good and Blue went for over 100 this past weekend
Posted on 9/29/15 at 4:38 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Patterson
Patterson is a defensive coach. TCU'S offense was abysmal until he hired Cumbie and Meacham.
As far as Briles goes, I think he is a top 5 head coach. I know he has no hardware but he has built Baylor's program from nothing into a top 10-10-15 program. Before Briles went to Baylor,they hadn't made it to a bowl game in 20 years.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:13 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Great post OP
U have single handedly identified about 50% of the ignorant that post here regularly with 1 post.
If u don't judge coaching talent by winning with less talent, how do u measure the trait?
Meyer is the better coach, Miles is the better leader. U couldn't get Meyer back in the SEC with a crowbar and Tim Tebow. He's not a SEC head coach . That's a given. How can one be the best overall coach but can't coach in the best conference without succumbing to the pressure? And he had a Heisman QB for 4 of his 6-7 years depending on when he first lied and
quit. Guess some of u can say Quitter and Head Football Coach in the same sentence with no problem but give miles the best at anything ?Now that's just going too far.
U have single handedly identified about 50% of the ignorant that post here regularly with 1 post.
If u don't judge coaching talent by winning with less talent, how do u measure the trait?
Meyer is the better coach, Miles is the better leader. U couldn't get Meyer back in the SEC with a crowbar and Tim Tebow. He's not a SEC head coach . That's a given. How can one be the best overall coach but can't coach in the best conference without succumbing to the pressure? And he had a Heisman QB for 4 of his 6-7 years depending on when he first lied and
quit. Guess some of u can say Quitter and Head Football Coach in the same sentence with no problem but give miles the best at anything ?Now that's just going too far.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:49 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Could they recruit as well as Miles? Who knows but they have built their respective programs into national contenders.
They have gotten their teams into national contention in the shitty big 12..... Come on man........
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:35 pm to LSUANDY25
Why did you respond to me?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:46 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Oh, we definitely have had nice backs. Some on here are acting like we had an Adrian Peterson 4 times in a row.
Our backs haven't been so exceptional as to be able to carry the load without coaching and scheme. Until now..
Our backs haven't been so exceptional as to be able to carry the load without coaching and scheme. Until now..
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