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re: Is LSU hitting really that bad?

Posted on 4/17/17 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 2:42 pm to
Which is slightly below where we ought to be
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Also, if I had to choose between:

1. Good overall BA, poor BA with risp

Or

2. Poor overall BA, better BA with risp
Define "poor" and "better"

Which one do you think leads to more runs?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 2:43 pm to
I hear you. Your explanation makes sense.

Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 2:45 pm to
Our team base runs (TeamBSR,a run expectation based on the team's hitting stats) is 198.

Our opponents team base runs based on how they're hitting against us is 135.

The Pythagorean record expectation based on the for and against TeamBSR is 25-12. We are neither outperforming or underperform our run expectation based win percentage. That's kind of weird. The 56 game record projection is 38-18.

This doesn't really argue either way whether we are a good or bad hitting team. It does say that we are what our record says we are though. Which isn't really always the case.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Which one do you think leads to more runs?


I haven't done the math and don't care to. But my gut tells me option 2 leads to more runs.

I was suggesting which problem is more likely to correct itself, therefore a "better" problem to have halfway through the season

I don't know, maybe I'm just reaching for silver linings because I want us to be good
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 2:54 pm to
SEC games only with 2 outs and RISP:

Georgia: 8-25
UF: 1-13
A&M: 1-10
Arky: 1-10
Ole Miss: 6-21

That's 17 for 79 or 0.215 average. ETA: Our SEC avg is 0.267 which is a 52 point difference.


1 for 20 in the losses (0.050)
16 for 59 in the wins (0.271)


Reminder: 11 of the 17 hits came in just 2 of the 15 games. Without those two games, we'd be hitting 0.105 in this situation.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:00 pm to
How does that compare to other SEC teams in only SEC games?
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:03 pm to
The problem is inconsistency. The stats won't look as bad as reality because we have had a few monster games, makes the reality of our shitty situational hitting look better
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

How does that compare to other SEC teams in only SEC games?
I don't have those stats readily available.
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:07 pm to
Ell illustrated my point better than I could word it. Disregard my ramble
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:07 pm to
I'm not trying to put you on the spot. I'm just not sure what is really good and what is really bad for risp avg.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

I'm just not sure what is really good and what is really bad for risp avg.
It's not good when it's almost 40 points below your season average.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:13 pm to
Your risp ba should prob be close to your ba without risp. Being alot higher or lower is usually an anomaly
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:14 pm to
PM is spooked by Omaha and TD Ameritrade.
It's why we have an entire roster of SS's and place such an emphasis on defense which won Game 3 against Ole Miss.
You sacrifice size and offense.

I watched Ole Miss out there and they dwarf LSU's team from a size standpoint. It wasn't successful for them this weekend as they outhomered LSU but LSU took the series.

Until they change TD Ameritrade which is not likely going to happen, PM is convinced this is the way to win in Omaha. The problem is getting there and they've lost to teams they should not lose to like Coastal last year even though they took that momentum and won it all.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87202 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:15 pm to
Right now the difference is 36 points below our season average.

2016 - 16 points lower
2015 - 5 points lower
2014 - 33 points higher
2013 - 23 points lower
2012 - 10 points higher
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:17 pm to
He needs to stop over analyzing that shite.
Posted by supersaints9
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:19 pm to
Poncho and the Russian will be here shortly to upvote
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:23 pm to
Is that SEC only?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87202 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:24 pm to
No. We are worse in SEC only games. Difference of 52 points lower.
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