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re: Is Les Miles bulletproof now?
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:53 am to CanIPlay636
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:53 am to CanIPlay636
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Dude I hear ya, but why is it always about how many players another team will be losing as a basis for us beating them? How many times has that notion been thrown around about teams only to have said teams still beat us.
This is what I find most sad about the current state of our program. We're now doing mental gymnastics to justify losses to Arky and Ole Miss. Losses to them used to be flukes. Now that they come on a more regular basis, we talk about them losing players and "this could be our year to beat them."
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:54 am to Choupique19
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No one is saying that the fans are 100% behind Miles, what Supah is saying, and I agree, is that Aleva and his money backers took their shot and F King over ruled them and it would take a catastrophic season next year to change F King's mind.
Miles is here to stay, boys.
Exactly correct. Something would have to happen so bad that King would not have to sell firing Miles to the public, it would be pretty much accepted as fact.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:03 am to Choupique19
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is that Alleva and his money backers took their shot
Alleva didn't seem like he had been over ruled in the PC, Alleva said there were no negotiations with anyone, and there were NO reports out of Fla. or nationally backing up a Jimbo deal or even a Jimbo interest.
Alleva did said he felt the need to see what was available, but that's a mighty big difference from offering the job to someone in a few days. imo
Seems more wishful thinking than anything else, but who knows.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:04 am to Stevo
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Please tell me that you're grown up enough to understand that Alleva never had the power to fire Miles by himself. He can make the recommendation, but the decision rests completely with BOS, with input from various sources (boosters, President, etc.).
I get that. I never said that Aleva has the power to fire Miles.
It is interesting to see how Aleva was handicapping Miles with Asst Coach contracts.
Now Miles gets what he wants.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:08 am to Choupique19
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It didn't happen like that. Steele was one of Les' top choices all along.
Of course it happened like that. At minimum, we know that was the issue with Chavis. Basic common sense dictates that he wasn't going to put his foot down with Chavis...but not with a new hire. And, of course, the fact that the clause doesn't exist in Aranda's deal pretty much says it all.
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But to answer Supah's question, I have felt all along that once Les survived, he was here for good. Alleva took his shot, and politics stamped it out. This is Les' world now and we're all just living in it.
To a degree. But, it's not impossible that things change. I don't think Miles has the gun pointed to his head...and he absolutely has the power over Alleva. But, if things were to somehow go south, change could come and it could come quick...it just won't be an Alleva driven move.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:19 am to supatigah
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No matter what the big donors want
Uhhh . . . Maybe. Maybe not.
If those same big donors were big donors and supporters of the new governor, you might see a political change that gets Fking Alexander's mind right. It will prolly get there if Miles has another November run like this past one.
I mean, this still is Louisiana. . . .
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:19 am to moneyg
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But, if things were to somehow go south, change could come and it could come quick...it just won't be an Alleva driven move.
I agree with this 100%
One of the fundamental questions in firing a coach of the stature of les miles is "can we afford it?" if the money was indeed there to buy him out this year, then yes LSU can afford it.
for the record I am no Miles fan, but I am Pro-LSU and I believe that giving Miles the opportunity and support to return LSU to a championship level is the best course of action. I will always favor stability over instability, all things being equal.
I also think that we are entering the final era of Les Miles and he wants to end his career on a high note. This is what we all should want as well.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:34 am to supatigah
He was after the A&M game. Only way I see him leaving is if he has a losing record next year and gets fired. Outside of that they won't let him go. $12M buyout on his contract. F King already said they won't pay that. Another year won't matter. That was all it was about.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:36 am to supatigah
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but I am Pro-LSU and I believe that giving Miles the opportunity and support to return LSU to a championship level is the best course of action. I will always favor stability over instability, all things being equal. I also think that we are entering the final era of Les Miles and he wants to end his career on a high note. This is what we all should want as well.
nicely stated.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:48 am to Weaver
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F King already said they won't pay that. Another year won't matter. That was all it was about.
F. King Alexander weighed in as he did, and enough BOS members agreed with him. Why does everyone believe that Alexander can unilaterally make the call? It's just not the case.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:01 am to supatigah
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It is interesting to see how Aleva was handicapping Miles with Asst Coach contracts.
I thought LSU had the highest paid Asst. or one of the highest paid staffs in college football last yr?
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:09 pm to tduecen
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so last year is irrelevant to next year.
Sure thing
I'm sure we will see a side of Less we haven't seen in some time.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:11 pm to Choupique19
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I want LSU to win big, just like you.
Who doesn't?
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:11 pm to Choupique19
I love being in lesley world with out the negativity it would be a championship world !
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:14 pm to Choupique19
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Then what do we have an athletic director for?
Spoken like a true retard.
Athletics don't run a university and neither does a AD. An AD advises the president and BOS. No AD hires or fires without the approval of others.
That doesn't mean he has no power. Only that he doesn't have universal power.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:20 pm to supatigah
I think if he doesnt win the whole damn thing he should be fired.
The west will be down next year. Plus favorable scheduling.
Bama loses Coordinator, Top RB, and whole defense
Auburn is a dumpster fire
TAMU is as well but they should be better on defense next year under chavis, they just need a QB
Miss St loses Dak
Ole Miss is losing a ton of top players
Arkansas is losing their QB, but should be pretty good
So anything less than an SEC championship and yea he should be fired.
The East will be Tenn,
Flordia, no QB, losing a lot on defense
Georgia, new coach new QB
SC, new coach
all others are shite.
It should be LSU vs Michigan in the NT game next year.
so yeah, that SOB should win it all or they should take a pay cut as the top paid staff in the country...
Rant over.
The west will be down next year. Plus favorable scheduling.
Bama loses Coordinator, Top RB, and whole defense
Auburn is a dumpster fire
TAMU is as well but they should be better on defense next year under chavis, they just need a QB
Miss St loses Dak
Ole Miss is losing a ton of top players
Arkansas is losing their QB, but should be pretty good
So anything less than an SEC championship and yea he should be fired.
The East will be Tenn,
Flordia, no QB, losing a lot on defense
Georgia, new coach new QB
SC, new coach
all others are shite.
It should be LSU vs Michigan in the NT game next year.
so yeah, that SOB should win it all or they should take a pay cut as the top paid staff in the country...
Rant over.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:54 pm to TigerFan55555
As long as he wins wins wins no matter what he's safe.
Nothing personal just business
Nothing personal just business
Posted on 1/4/16 at 3:10 pm to LSU Groupee
I never said the AD was all powerful, that much was proven in November.
Who said anything about Alleva trying to run the chemistry department? Arts? Calculus?
Neither does a head football coach, but you better believe that Les Miles is the guy interviewing and deciding what coordinators he wants to hire.
My point is that the AD is the guy that most of the time makes the recommendation to fire a coach, and very few times does the BOS, who are not athletics guys, overrule it.
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Athletics doesn't run a university
Who said anything about Alleva trying to run the chemistry department? Arts? Calculus?
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No AD hires or fires without the approval of others
Neither does a head football coach, but you better believe that Les Miles is the guy interviewing and deciding what coordinators he wants to hire.
My point is that the AD is the guy that most of the time makes the recommendation to fire a coach, and very few times does the BOS, who are not athletics guys, overrule it.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 4:32 pm to Choupique19
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makes the recommendation to fire a coach
What has Alleva said that makes you think he made a recommendation to anyone fire Les?
Damn, but some guys jump to some wild arse conclusions.
If Jimbo was days away from leaving Florida State, its laughable that anyone would think the Louisiana media would know all about it but the Florida media would be clueless to the fact a major state program was about to lose their coach.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 8:30 am to supatigah
I love the fact that the negatigers are at least smart enough to fee a little bit humiliated over this past attempted suicide !
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