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re: Is Jefferson reading his keys?
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:14 pm to Mayhawman
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:14 pm to Mayhawman
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Is Jefferson reading his keys?
No, he is not reading on the plays. Some are plays are designed for the QB all the way; some plays it just look like JJ is keeping the rock because he wants it so badly.
Looks like he has the green light from the coaches to keep the ball an run as long as he picks up yards. Does not seem to be reading a DL position and making reacting accordingly, like you would expect from a read option system.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:16 pm to jrodLSUke
many of the plays, it was Copeland in the backfield with him, designed qb runs with a fullback, not read options.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:16 pm to Mayhawman
A lot of his runs yesterday weren't reads. He was in the backfield with the FB and the FB would lead block for him. On his reads he did pretty bad, several times Shep or Ford would've had big gains and JJ kept.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:17 pm to LSUcc
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For example, his TD run on the option: even though he barely scored (and almost fumbled), he should've pitched it to Ford and Ford would've walked in
And Ford didn't seem too happy either.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:18 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
there was a play with shep trailing, where I thought Shep could go a long way, and JJ kept it for a short gain. I suppose one could say that he eliminated a possible fumble and did not have confidence to make the play. I thought as a first year player, his tosses were his best part of his game. so.. idk what's happening.
I think that only someone with access to game film could answer your question.
I think that only someone with access to game film could answer your question.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:21 pm to Big_Al_316
Lee is throwing timing routes. It's clear this is the first yr either has had a qb coach.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:27 pm to LSUcc
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For example, his TD run on the option: even though he barely scored (and almost fumbled), he should've pitched it to Ford and Ford would've walked in.
I've seen this posted several times, did you not see the DE take Ford? You can clearly see it on EVERY replay of the game.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:28 pm to Icansee4miles
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And Ford didn't seem too happy either
yup, you right. However, it does seem like JJ is making quicker decisions to tuck-and-run on his drop back plays which results in longer runs.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:31 pm to Lsuismyfav
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I've seen this posted several times, did you not see the DE take Ford? You can clearly see it on EVERY replay of the game.
This.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:34 pm to Lsuismyfav
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I've seen this posted several times, did you not see the DE take Ford?
Yeah, it also appears that he is slipping. I just watched it again. Ford would've easily walked in.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:38 pm to Lsuismyfav
After JJ strung the play out himself, yes the DE finally went to Ford. It was the correct read at the time, because of the way JJ attacks the DE, he never does.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:41 pm to JJ27
JJ is much better at the QB read option than a traditional speed option with a pitch man. Every time he runs the speed option he strings the play out and if he finally pitches the ball there is no room left for the TB.
This post was edited on 10/16/11 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:44 pm to Icansee4miles
quote:I noticed that too. In fact When Jefferson scored, Ford didn't go over to congratulate Jefferson because I think he was angry.
And Ford didn't seem too happy either.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:46 pm to JJ27
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JJ is much better at the QB read option than a traditional speed option with a pitch man. Every time he runs the speed option he strings the play out and if he finally pitches the ball there is no room left for the TB.
If this is true and he runs it so poorly how is it that Miles keeps calling it?
Or maybe you can see things that coaches can't?
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:46 pm to JJ27
He never ran the option in HS. If we want to run the option as a change of pace, let one of the guys that did run it. Ware in Wildcat running option with Ford anyone?
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:50 pm to Gray Tiger
Miles doesn't call it. It's an audible at the line that JJ calls. This was well documented last year.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:51 pm to Icansee4miles
Shep was the #1 QB in the nation running the option pretty much exclusively. He would be infinitely better.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 4:57 pm to JJ27
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Shep was the #1 QB in the nation running the option pretty much exclusively. He would be infinitely better.
Fact. If JJ is going to run the ball 95% of the time he sets up in shotgun, then let RS make the play.
This is the type of thing that I will always questions with Miles; I don't think he uses all of the talent as well as we could.
For example, where is Gore? Use the kids speed laterally as a decoy to spread the defense.
I think JJ is pretty terrible at the zone read and keeps it much too often. There were multiple times he didn't hand it off when I think he should have.
The point remains: JJ should not have double digit carries in a game when a team has the talent of RS, Ware, Ford, and Gore all at its disposal. It is ludicrous for him to run the ball that much.
For every read option that JJ runs for 10 yards, RS gains at least the same amount with the chance of breaking one for a TD (JJ v. UT last year being the one exception...but anyone would have housed that).
Posted on 10/16/11 at 5:33 pm to lynxcat
Jj is mainly back there to run and will get to throw a deep pass before it's over! It's sad because we have way better runners we could use if they aren't going to let or make Jj throw it more to open up the box! Now Jj has been effective in his runs so far so I guess we shouldn't complain too much. And here I go with another complaint and I had it last year. Many many times Shepard has been used as a decoy or read option and would have made way bigger gains because he had open field more than JJ. It worked well for us last year against TN on that opening drive, but mostly Shep or the option should have got the ball.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 5:37 pm to hemiroid
Ya he reads his keys...all he see's is the number 9...
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