Started By
Message

Irrational Exuberance or Rational Expectation?

Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:29 am
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5504 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:29 am
With the first game about three weeks away, the excitement is beginning to reverberate. There is good reason to be excited. Although there are realistic question marks at DE, OLB, FB, and C. Just about everyone else is coming back, and the people coming back look like they can bring a magical year.


DEFENSE

Defensive Tackles
I know what LSU has at starting DT, BEASTS. The depth is not ideal, but it should be more than adequate. The returning talent is immense, and LSU almost always seems to have a lesser known player with big production in his third year.

Defensive Ends
I don't know what kind of production LSU will get at DE. There are a lot of talented players to choose from, and I have no doubt that Coach O will teach them well and motivate them even better. LSU had only 19 sacks last year; 7 came in the SHSU game. I'm optimistic that this year will be MUCH better.

Linebackers
I know what LSU has at MLB, BEAST. I won't be saying novenas for health, but I might carry a rabbit's foot.

I feel comfortable with the talent LSU has at OLB, but I'm not sure how they will perform. Like DE, there is talent and excellent coaching. I'm optimistic.

Secondary
I know what LSU has for the secondary even if it's not clear exactly who will play where. The fuel gauge reads FULL. So much talent. SO MUCH TALENT! Shut down corners, ball-hawking safeties, speed off the edge. This level should be excellent.


OFFENSE

Offensive Line
I know what LSU has on the o-line, except for C, based on last year and the talent level. The improvement this group made over the course of last season in both technique and production has me very excited. There shouldn't be a learning curve this year. The o-line should be very good and VERY deep.

Receivers and Tight Ends
The receiving corps that was, despite their immense talent, such a weakness last year because of a lack of experience should be exactly the opposite this year. They are now, immensely talented, bigger, stronger, and experienced. There's just too much experienced talent.

I'm very excited about the TE position. It's been a LONG time since LSU has had such talented and EXPERIENCED pass-catching TEs. The Music City Bowl indicates that it could be a BIG year for the TEs.

Fullbacks and Running Backs
Probably the biggest unknown. I have very little idea what LSU has at FB, except what was revealed on the roster, the spring game, and the gauntlet drill, which is not much at all. I don't even know how much the FB will be used this year. I'm optimistic that some talented souls will fill the position. Moore is tall but not wide; Ducre could have a tremendous year; Upchurch and Mouton bring very real pass-catching ability to the position.
Holy crap. Probably the best freshmen-sophomore combo-combo in the country. The talent is wide and deep. It's going to be VERY good. Your body is not ready.

Quarterbacks
I know what LSU has for a baseline at QB, and this year should be greatly improved from last year. There is no question that Harris has GREATLY improved from last year. 2014 He finally looks ready to lead the team. Last year, he hardly looked solid enough to be an SEC QB or to last a full season. Sure enough, he suffered a near season-ending injury in his first start. He's put on good weight, and he's much stronger.

Just like Harris, Jennings has also improved from last year. LINK Neither Harris nor Jennings is perfect, but they have both shown big improvement.

According to Cameron, he learned a lot from last year. He will be able to better prepare Harris and Jennings for this year, and put them into a better position to succeed.
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 11:45 am
Posted by RickyDonSkaggs
Member since Sep 2014
1120 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:51 am to
Wooooo!!!!!!! Football!!!!!! FOOTBALL!!!!!
Posted by goldengorilla
Dallas
Member since Jun 2008
1013 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:53 am to
Please correct Defensive Line to Offensive Line under the Offense category. Thank you
Posted by goldengorilla
Dallas
Member since Jun 2008
1013 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 10:57 am to
I would say this is leaning more to Irrational Exuberance than Rational Expectation. How do you not have QB as a realistic question mark? I don't think it's about what Cam has learned, as much as how much rope Les is willing to give Cam.
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
3482 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Just like Harris, Jennings has also improved from last year. LINK Neither Harris nor Jennings is perfect, but they have both shown big improvement.



just don't know how you can say this. His videos have looked poor. He missed alot of time while being suspended from the team. He has been arrested. He has been passed up by Harris. Unless you are going by the feeling of he cant be any worse, that I can agree with
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Just like Harris, Jennings has also improved from last year. LINK Neither Harris nor Jennings is perfect, but they have both shown big improvement.

How can you say this when they've been throwing against air? We won't know how either one has improved until Sept 5th.
Posted by oldmantig
Abbeville, La.
Member since Sep 2006
196 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 11:08 am to
I tend to agree that the offense will be better. The serious concern is the defense and particularly the defensive ends. Quarterbacks will be better. The irrational exuberance says Brandon Harris will be all conference, rational expectations says better than 50% of his passes complete and some key plays with his legs. Irrational exuberance says the defensive ends will be as good as last years pair at stopping the run and better at sacking the quarterback. Rational expectation says we'll have problems setting the edge and maybe as good at getting to the quarterback.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5504 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 11:58 am to
quote:

just don't know how you can say this. His videos have looked poor.
(1) Both Harris and Jennings looked better in the Spring Game.

(2) Miles said they are both "night and day" better right now.

(3) They both look better right now. LINK They look pretty equivalent.

(4) QBs tend to get better under Miles.

Have there been some bad throws in practice? Sure. (monsterballads is more than happy to post Jennings' bad throws. He lives for that shite.) But are we talking about the first week of . . . practice?


quote:

He missed alot of time while being suspended from the team.
That doesn't make him get worse, and I'm sure he threw footballs during that time.


quote:

He has been arrested.
. . . and the charges were dropped because the "victim's" stories were inconsistent.


quote:

He has been passed up by Harris.
Good for Harris. Looks like the summer really paid off. Nevertheless, Harris's marked improvement is irrelevant to whether Jennings has improved.
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
3482 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Miles said they are both "night and day" better right now.


what Miles say means absolutely nothing. If you dont know this by now, you have not been paying attention.

quote:

Both Harris and Jennings looked better in the Spring Game.



I saw Jennings look average at best in a controlled environment

quote:

(3) They both look better right now. LINK They look pretty equivalent.



completely wrong, if they looked equivelant, Harris would not be considered the front runner for the job. As a matter of fact, if all things were equal, it would be Jennings job

quote:

Have there been some bad throws in practice? Sure. (monsterballads is more than happy to post Jennings' bad throws. He lives for that shite.) But are we talking about the first week of . . . practice?



he cant complete passes against air, that sure doesn't show that he has gotten better

quote:

That doesn't make him get worse, and I'm sure he threw footballs during that time.



also doesn't make him better

quote:

and the charges were dropped because the "victim's" stories were inconsistent.



yeah, thats it.

Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11089 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Irrational Exuberance or Rational Expectation?


"First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect."

Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 12:43 pm to
Yaw Yaw Yaw Yaw Yaw Football!!
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7870 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:13 pm to
It's just called August and is part of the annual LSU fan cycle. We don't have anything to be pissed about yet.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

How can you say this when they've been throwing against air? We won't know how either one has improved until Sept 5th.


Let's be honest here, there is no way he could be any worse....and it's not a stretch that Jennings could be better just based upon a year of experience under his belt. LOL. Even if he improves a lot, that doesn't mean he is up to the level of decent.....so I guess it depends on where your starting point is in terms of improving.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

It's just called August and is part of the annual LSU fan cycle. We don't have anything to be pissed about yet.


This August is a little different wouldn't you agree? I mean we are returning 16 starters....that hasn't happened in a while, and when it did, good things happened. I don't think it's unrealistic to expect that this team will be improved over last year.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

The serious concern is the defense and particularly the defensive ends


No offense to the DE's that started last year, but that was some of our least productive DE's in a long time. Yes, Hunter was huge, but that didn't translate into sacks/pressure. I am being very rational, and I would be upset if we didn't get better production from our current DE's. Is there a chance they could be worse? Sure. But again, what we had wasn't great....and with LSU's talent and new blood in coaching with O.....I am expecting much better DE play. Our D should be nasty this year, if we can stay healthy at DT and MLB.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4361 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:15 pm to
Hope springs eternal in the human breast unless he is a nega tiger ,Long live the sunshine Tigers !
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Irrational Exuberance or Rational Expectation?


Rational anything is rarely applied to the Rant.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7870 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

This August is a little different wouldn't you agree? I mean we are returning 16 starters....that hasn't happened in a while, and when it did, good things happened. I don't think it's unrealistic to expect that this team will be improved over last year.



Improved, sure; but "Magical" (as in your OP) is doubtful at this point.

All of the news we are going to hear right now is going to be positive, as it is with every team in the country. Let's get through a couple of games and find out.

Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98123 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by 9th Green At 9
From where they make gumbo at
Member since Jul 2015
2922 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:16 pm to
Do you have dictionary.com as a favorite?
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram