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re: In defense of Tommy Casanova
Posted on 2/3/09 at 12:48 pm to ForeLSU
Posted on 2/3/09 at 12:48 pm to ForeLSU
Are we assuming TC gets the modern strength and speed training and the diet that today's players get? If so, then of course he would be good. If not, then of course he would not be as good.
Players are obviously physically superior today, so it is hard to compare even the standout players of long ago b/c they played against slower and smaller competition. TC was one of those who probably would be a great player in any era assuming of course he trains like a modern player.
Players are obviously physically superior today, so it is hard to compare even the standout players of long ago b/c they played against slower and smaller competition. TC was one of those who probably would be a great player in any era assuming of course he trains like a modern player.
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Posted on 2/3/09 at 1:48 pm to ForeLSU
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That hit was by Richard Picou
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Casanova's hit was in Alabama, on TV and
a color picture in the Times Picayune the
day after the game. You could see the intent
in his eyes in the shot. Ranters have had this debate before. Casanova or Picou on the Musso hit. Was Picou's shot in Tiger Stadium another year?
That hit was by Richard Picou
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Casanova's hit was in Alabama, on TV and
a color picture in the Times Picayune the
day after the game. You could see the intent
in his eyes in the shot. Ranters have had this debate before. Casanova or Picou on the Musso hit. Was Picou's shot in Tiger Stadium another year?
Posted on 2/3/09 at 1:53 pm to makecents
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Tommy Casanova is the best man to ever play football for LSU.
Without a doubt.
Posted on 2/3/09 at 3:34 pm to Rougarou4lsu
Casanova was around 6'2" 210 pounds, ran a sub 4.5 forty and hit like a freight train without todays enhanced training methods.
He was great period. Cannon, Casanova,Stovall, Alexander, and Robiskie were all transcendant athletes who would have been stars of the game in any subsequent decade.
He was great period. Cannon, Casanova,Stovall, Alexander, and Robiskie were all transcendant athletes who would have been stars of the game in any subsequent decade.
This post was edited on 2/3/09 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 2/3/09 at 3:42 pm to RANDY44
Einstein couldn't send an email today if you put him in a room with a computer. To say he couldn't compete in today's world is stupid. you have to look at whether they dominated in their day. Casanova did at LSU, and in the NFL which unlike the SEC at the time had plenty of black players as well.
Posted on 2/3/09 at 4:11 pm to Rougarou4lsu
Remember in 1971, watching LSU beat Notre Dame on TV in Dayton Square apartments in Denver, Col.
Casanova held Notre Dame's All American receiver with 0 catches. Also remember Casanova returning punts for TD's against Ole Miss. Casanova would have to be the best all around player I've seen at LSU.
Casanova held Notre Dame's All American receiver with 0 catches. Also remember Casanova returning punts for TD's against Ole Miss. Casanova would have to be the best all around player I've seen at LSU.
Posted on 2/3/09 at 5:46 pm to tigerinridgeland
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Sorry, but that is pure bunk.
Yeah, frick facts. Those bitches don't mean nothing.
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Cassanova's size is, as has been pointed out, on par with today's players.
Ok and?
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So that argument is out of the window.
No, no its not. There's a 300 lb guy that lives 2 floors above he can play LT in the NFL huh?
Posted on 2/3/09 at 6:02 pm to Rougarou4lsu
IMO- He is the best secondary player in LSU history and probably the only one to have the opportunity to play both sides of the ball.
Tommy C was a KAMAKAZI !
Tommy C was a KAMAKAZI !
Posted on 2/3/09 at 6:12 pm to BT4LSU
Tommy C. was the greatest player in the modern age of LSU football. He could easily play at All American level if he was playing today. Back then, players weren't timed in the forty, but in the 100 and he ran the 100 in 9.4 seconds. That would translate to 4.5 in the 40 and that is plenty fast enough for a safety.
Posted on 2/3/09 at 6:30 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Yeah, too many bong hits for you, Rougaroo. I would compare him to Hookfin in the modern era.
OK, let me get this straight...you are comparing Casonova to Hookfin...right?
...at you not with you... :
This post was edited on 2/3/09 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 2/3/09 at 6:40 pm to 1984Tiger
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yeah ... 4 Pro Bowls in 6 seasons. Not many players in the game can stake claim to this. Casanova in today's game, with today's strength and conditioning techniques would still dominate.
Aaaaaaaaaand a perhaps forgotten fact...he called the defensive signals instead of the middle linebacker. This would be like a running back or wide reciever calling the offensive plays in the huddle instead of the quarterback. Strange but true. Must have really impressed his coaches in Cincy! Speaks volumes I think.
Posted on 2/3/09 at 6:52 pm to jbs780
absolutely the most incredible discussion I've seen on this website over the past 4-5 years!
Tommy Casanova was by far the greatest athlete I've ever seen play at LSU in my 40+ years of watching the Tigers play......
could play both sides of the ball, proved himself as a multi-year All-Pro performer after college......never saw him get beat by a receiver, great punt returner.....
we won't even talk about his GPA, Med School, and MD career prep during all of this time, either, ......while most other "Superstars" are playing on their XBOX or "hitting on whores" at the local strip joint during their free time!
Whoever started the idea that Mr. Casanova wouldn't "stack up" is obviously an idiot and/or is a smartass with some other ulterior motive or agenda.
Tommy Casanova was by far the greatest athlete I've ever seen play at LSU in my 40+ years of watching the Tigers play......
could play both sides of the ball, proved himself as a multi-year All-Pro performer after college......never saw him get beat by a receiver, great punt returner.....
we won't even talk about his GPA, Med School, and MD career prep during all of this time, either, ......while most other "Superstars" are playing on their XBOX or "hitting on whores" at the local strip joint during their free time!
Whoever started the idea that Mr. Casanova wouldn't "stack up" is obviously an idiot and/or is a smartass with some other ulterior motive or agenda.
Posted on 2/3/09 at 7:04 pm to TigerStuckinOkieland
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Whoever started the idea that Mr. Casanova wouldn't "stack up" is obviously an idiot
Yup Yup!
Posted on 2/3/09 at 7:06 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Science, it works!
Posted on 2/3/09 at 7:07 pm to Rougarou4lsu
I not only had the pleasure to watch Cassanova and Jones play, but also to get to know them both personally.
Once after they had both retired I had an opportunity to be with both at the same time and asked if they had ever played against each other in the Pros.
They said that they had faced each other once. On that occasion Jones decided ro run with the ball and Cassanova took him down "more gentley than normal" but warned him not to run again. Jones did and Cassanova took him down again but a litle harder with a final warning.
Bert said that after he ran a third time and was hit with more into it he decided that he had had had enough and quit.
Bert Jones will tell you that Tommy Cassanova was the hardest hitter and had the best nose for the ball than anyone he ever knew.
Once after they had both retired I had an opportunity to be with both at the same time and asked if they had ever played against each other in the Pros.
They said that they had faced each other once. On that occasion Jones decided ro run with the ball and Cassanova took him down "more gentley than normal" but warned him not to run again. Jones did and Cassanova took him down again but a litle harder with a final warning.
Bert said that after he ran a third time and was hit with more into it he decided that he had had had enough and quit.
Bert Jones will tell you that Tommy Cassanova was the hardest hitter and had the best nose for the ball than anyone he ever knew.
Posted on 2/3/09 at 7:09 pm to ksliman
Nnamdi or Reed > Casanova
FACT
FACT
Posted on 2/3/09 at 7:17 pm to LSUtigahs28
quote:
Nnamdi or Reed > Casanova
FACT
you mad dumb son!
Posted on 2/3/09 at 7:20 pm to LSUtigahs28
Jesus Christ > Ghandi......
Fact!
Your point??
Fact!
Your point??
Posted on 2/3/09 at 7:20 pm to Fububutsy
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you mad dumb son!
Posted on 2/3/09 at 7:20 pm to LSUtigahs28
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FACT
Until you provide a FACT it is an opinion
I will be happy to consider the FACTS when I see them
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