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re: In all this melting, have you ever thought....

Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:06 pm to
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talent


True.... Hurts was sucking so they put in Tua... We know the rest.

Somebody gets hurt, another 5 star steps in to take up the slack. They don't miss a beat.

Now.... Why do they have the talent and we don't?

P. S..... Don't say a coach's name. That's not it
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 7:08 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71291 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:09 pm to
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Now.... Why do they have the talent and we don't?

Nick Saban and 10 years of building a machine
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P. S..... Don't say a coach's name. That's not it

it 100% is. Alabama doesn't have any discernibly better resources than other top 10 programs do. They do, however, have the best coach in college football history.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
10811 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:13 pm to
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it 100% is.


It's not. He could drop dead tomorrow and Kirby Smart would whip us with that team next year like we stole a government mule.

It's bigger than the coach. Saban was allowed to flourish because he was supported by the decision makers.

You guys aren't happy with the fruit being produced. Instead of wanting to cut off a limb (the coach) you need to look at the roots. The roots are the problem with this program.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71291 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:17 pm to
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It's bigger than the coach. Saban was allowed to flourish because he was supported by the decision makers.

Saban is supported like that because he is Nick Saban not because Alabama is special
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You guys aren't happy with the fruit being produced. Instead of wanting to cut off a limb (the coach) you need to look at the roots. The roots are the problem with this program.

the roots are the problem in hiring the right coaches, not allowing the coaches to flourish. Les Miles was not held back whatsoever by "the roots", he just wasn't as good of a coach as Saban.

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It's not.

It is

You could give the wrong coach all the support in the world, but that doesn't mean the team will be any better for it if that coach isn't as good as his colleagues.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
4009 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:19 pm to
The reason is they have better players, better player development and their players execute better. That's the reason
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
10811 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:25 pm to
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Les Miles was not held back whatsoever by "the roots", he just wasn't as good of a coach as Saban.


I agree with you somewhat on this point. The roots have become alot more involved since Miles was fired, which is why we have all of the uproar when me make a hire.

Maybe the best coach wasn't allowed to be hired?

Maybe O's hands were tied?

Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
10811 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:27 pm to
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The reason is they have better players, better player development and their players execute better. That's the reason


I agree with you... They are studs. Why don't we have that?
Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
2137 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:29 pm to
Alabama has more built in advantages than any other program in the NCAA. Nick Saban is a great coach that was put in charge of THE dirtiest program in the NCAA. Compound that with the SEC being ran by Bama homers and you have a GD juggernaut that can not be broken.

You want to know why Bama has won 6 Natty's in 10 years... Bama will do anything to win, there's no rule they won't break and there's no one in any position high enough to stop them.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71291 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:29 pm to
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Why don't we have that?

because Alabama has Nick Saban and we do not. He is the best at recruiting, the best at developing players, and the best at preparation. That is why he wins like he does and we do not.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71291 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:31 pm to
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I agree with you somewhat on this point. The roots have become alot more involved since Miles was fired, which is why we have all of the uproar when me make a hire.

Maybe the best coach wasn't allowed to be hired?

Maybe O's hands were tied?

or maybe we fricked up in the process of firing Miles and hiring his replacement and are now scrambling. But there was no other coach we could have hired or even that exists that would produce like Nick Saban. Urban Meyer is the only other coach that is even remotely comparable, because like Nick Saban, he has built powerhouse programs at 2 different schools, at Florida when they were in disarray and at Ohio State coming off probation. But even all he has accomplished doesn't hold a candle to the dominance of Saban the past decade and you can't tell me Ohio State doesn't have "the roots" for success.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 7:34 pm
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
10811 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:49 pm to
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or maybe we fricked up in the process of firing Miles and hiring his replacement and are now scrambling.


Right.... Entirely possible. That would explain the inexplicable moves that are being made

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But there was no other coach we could have hired or even that exists that would produce like Nick Saban.


True... We got obsessed with beating Bama. I believe it's one of the main reasons that Miles came under fire. Bama knew how to beat us.

So why did we fire Miles if Saban is unbeatable?
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
10811 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:50 pm to
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lsufball19


That wasn't your question to answer. Penalty box!
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22901 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:03 pm to
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They are arguing about quarterbacks and assistant coaches.
Yeah. It’s easy to see how and why the “dirty” got into and remains entrenched in Louisiana’s politics. They don’t see it. They just don’t get it. Dumb voters. Dumb votes. Institutionalized corruption.

Plays out all over LSU - the 2000s have been a brief but declining respite; now the dirty politics is back.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 8:09 pm
Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
6481 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:43 pm to
it's true. Alabama's compliance department allows saban to keep players he wants to keep - he decides the discipline, not some jealous little snot-nosed Nazi bureaucrat. you think all his players are really attending college? I mean taking real college courses? hell no.

they don't just give him the facilities and the budget. they let him do what he needs to do to get football players and keep them eligible.

we don't. very few schools do, if any others. not on the level of Alabama.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37055 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:48 pm to
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What makes Bama so dominant?
an endless supply of Ford Explorers.
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