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re: In a combat situation, the Commander gets no second chance.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:31 pm to ChewyDante
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:31 pm to ChewyDante
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the premise itself is false.
What premise is that, Cap?
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:32 pm to Champagne
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Well, you failed to accomplish your mission, there, Oliver!
Better luck next time !
Yeah, you got me there. All these people arguing against you failed, too.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:32 pm to DestrehanTiger
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He deserves dismissal for the litany of mistakes he's made since he's been here, not just for Saturday night.
I can certainly agree with you here, Podna.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:32 pm to Champagne
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I know a little about warfare and a little about football, and, in my opinion, it's a good analogy.
First of all, I agree that to compare a game with a war is absurd. Second, you have the right to say that because our founding fathers did not think the same way. General Washington was not replaced in spite of losing more than he won most of the time. Duh! The analogy sucks.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:32 pm to Champagne
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What premise is that, Cap?
This premise:
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When a Commander screws up and causes a loss in a combat situation, there are no second chances.
The Commander is RELIEVED FROM HIS COMMAND and replaced without getting a second chance.
For instance, I don't recall General Lee being relieved of his command following the debacle at Gettysburg. That's one of a thousand instances of your premise being completely absurd and false.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:34 pm to DestrehanTiger
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All these people arguing against you failed, too.
I think they did, Cuddles.
I do LOVE your avatar, though !
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:34 pm to ChewyDante
Well shite, in that case most of the great coaches out there would be relieved of their duties time after time after time.
Stoops would be relieved 5 times for crying out loud!
Stoops would be relieved 5 times for crying out loud!
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:36 pm to ChewyDante
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This premise: When a Commander screws up and causes a loss in a combat situation, there are no second chances. The Commander is RELIEVED FROM HIS COMMAND and replaced without getting a second chance.
Oh, we have a live one here !
So when a commander fricks up a combat situation so badly that his superior commander loses confidence in the subordinate commanders abilities, your saying that the subordinate commander cannot be immediately shite-canned?
What happens then, Snookums? Is there a trial or something?
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:36 pm to Champagne
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Oh, we have a live one here !
So when a commander fricks up a combat situation so badly that his superior commander loses confidence in the subordinate commanders abilities, your saying that the subordinate commander cannot be immediately shite-canned?
What happens then, Snookums? Is there a trial or something?
You're really making an arse of yourself here...
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:37 pm to Champagne
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I do LOVE your avatar, though !
Thanks, Jimmy!
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:38 pm to ironsides
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Stoops would be relieved 5 times for crying out loud!
Good point.
Do Bob Stoops's teams look confused, clueless and without adult supervision very often on the football field?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:40 pm to ChewyDante
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I don't recall General Lee being relieved of his command
General Johnson was relieved of his command during the Atlanta Campaign and General Hood was appointed in his place.
WAIT A MINUTE, ARE YOU SAYING THAT COACH LES MILES IS EQUAL TO GENERAL ROBERT E. LEE???? !! HOW MANY FRIKIN MUSHROOMS HAVE YOU EATEN TODAY, GOMER??
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:41 pm to Champagne
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Good point.
Do Bob Stoops's teams look confused, clueless and without adult supervision very often on the football field?
YES! That's how you lose 5 games in a season!
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:41 pm to DestrehanTiger
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Thanks, Jimmy!
Jimmy Taylor is my all-time favorite running back!
LSU, Green Bay Packers and New Orleans Saints!
Sorry you don't agree with my on my military analogy.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:44 pm to ironsides
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YES! That's how you lose 5 games in a season!
Can we at least agree that Bob Stoops is a good name for a Gay Man and that Bob Stoops looks like a queer who lives in his mother's basement?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:45 pm to ChewyDante
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You're really making an arse of yourself here...
. . . and I ain't being paid by the taxpayers anywhere close to four million a year for it, neither, Alice !
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:49 pm to Champagne
...sigh... I will try again from a different angle
If Miles were to commit something along the lines of dereliction of duty, such as showing up drunk to a game, or if he committed an act of gross misconduct, like physically beating a player, there would be grounds to relieve him.
Tactical decisions that don't work out do not get officers fired from their post or command. Things go wrong all the time in the military organizations and in civilian organizations. The nature of the mistakes such as those that you questioning will merely be noted by your superiors, and when you are due for another fitness report, you may score badly compared to your peers in some areas, the long term effect being that you are less likely to be promoted when you get the opportunity. And if you continue to screw up, may eventually be asked to retire.
Have a great day
If Miles were to commit something along the lines of dereliction of duty, such as showing up drunk to a game, or if he committed an act of gross misconduct, like physically beating a player, there would be grounds to relieve him.
Tactical decisions that don't work out do not get officers fired from their post or command. Things go wrong all the time in the military organizations and in civilian organizations. The nature of the mistakes such as those that you questioning will merely be noted by your superiors, and when you are due for another fitness report, you may score badly compared to your peers in some areas, the long term effect being that you are less likely to be promoted when you get the opportunity. And if you continue to screw up, may eventually be asked to retire.
Have a great day
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:51 pm to Champagne
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. . . and I ain't being paid by the taxpayers anywhere close to four million a year for it, neither, Alice !
Neither is Miles, Billy.
Well, maybe he is, now that I think about it. I'm not really sure if he is payed by TAF or the state.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:54 pm to DestrehanTiger
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Billy.
You are going to think I'm crazy for this but, Billy Kilmer is my all-time favorite Saints quarterback !
I like Drew Brees and Archie too, don't get me wrong, but . . .
Billy Kilmer! What guts !! What a tough competitor!
Any way, I'm off track here . . . OH WHAT THE HELL! LET'S TALK ABOUT BILLY KILMER AND JIMMY TAYLOR!
Miles doesn't deserve anybody fighting over him.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:56 pm to Champagne
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I guess things are a little different for the big boys coaching college football making 4 million a year !
By your logic, Saban should been relieved after losing to ULM. GTFO!
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