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re: IMO, strong D=AJ; suspect D=Harris
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:12 pm to Triggerduckman
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:12 pm to Triggerduckman
My take is this: The coaches have known that Harris has the higher ceiling, but it is a risk reward deal. Les has relied mostly on game manager type QBs to win, depending on a strong D, good STs, and strong running game. On the rare times he has had a QB he fully trusts, they still aren't an air raid type team, although they will throw it more than usual.
Before MSU, many on here were claiming the LSU D after that hiccup against Wisconsin for a half and a drive were elite and our STs were good. So the OP has a point.
When MSU shattered that D myth(Guys we will not be the only team they beat that is highly ranked). They tried to expand the O with Jennings and it didn't work out well. Harris comes in and lights it up again.
I still think they worry about Harris making some bad throws(because he thinks he can make everyone of them as documented by the announcers) and he might.
They realize now that Jennings is capable of this as well. So they have no choice but to go with Harris and let the chips fall where they may.
LSU faces a serious gauntlet at this point as does the other teams in the west. I think the coaches realize we will not run over anybody without the passing threat being viable.
It should be an interesting ride.
Before MSU, many on here were claiming the LSU D after that hiccup against Wisconsin for a half and a drive were elite and our STs were good. So the OP has a point.
When MSU shattered that D myth(Guys we will not be the only team they beat that is highly ranked). They tried to expand the O with Jennings and it didn't work out well. Harris comes in and lights it up again.
I still think they worry about Harris making some bad throws(because he thinks he can make everyone of them as documented by the announcers) and he might.
They realize now that Jennings is capable of this as well. So they have no choice but to go with Harris and let the chips fall where they may.
LSU faces a serious gauntlet at this point as does the other teams in the west. I think the coaches realize we will not run over anybody without the passing threat being viable.
It should be an interesting ride.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 1:14 pm
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:21 pm to Jimmie the Geek
Great Post Jimmy.
These type of posts always bring out the low football IQ rantards. Hilarious reading them as they bash a guy that actually has a clue, thinking they do.
Only on TD can u get this with a str8 face.
These type of posts always bring out the low football IQ rantards. Hilarious reading them as they bash a guy that actually has a clue, thinking they do.
Only on TD can u get this with a str8 face.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:32 pm to Kirby4life
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We went undefeated in 2011. No ton of football games left to win except BCSNCG.
What's your point? I didn't say a ton more games.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:04 pm to LSUANDY25
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Hilarious reading them as they bash a guy that actually has a clue, thinking they do.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:11 pm to NotRight37
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My take is this: The coaches have known that Harris has the higher ceiling, but it is a risk reward deal. Les has relied mostly on game manager type QBs to win, depending on a strong D, good STs, and strong running game. On the rare times he has had a QB he fully trusts, they still aren't an air raid type team, although they will throw it more than usual.
Before MSU, many on here were claiming the LSU D after that hiccup against Wisconsin for a half and a drive were elite and our STs were good. So the OP has a point.
When MSU shattered that D myth(Guys we will not be the only team they beat that is highly ranked). They tried to expand the O with Jennings and it didn't work out well. Harris comes in and lights it up again.
I still think they worry about Harris making some bad throws(because he thinks he can make everyone of them as documented by the announcers) and he might.
They realize now that Jennings is capable of this as well. So they have no choice but to go with Harris and let the chips fall where they may.
LSU faces a serious gauntlet at this point as does the other teams in the west. I think the coaches realize we will not run over anybody without the passing threat being viable.
It should be an interesting ride.
Someone gets it. Great post.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:15 pm to LSUzealot
Man the dude was bouncing passes or missing guys wide open?? Fumbling snaps and throwing easy pics is another problem. I don't know it's a no brainer to me.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:59 pm to LSUzealot
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he has a point…Les has a propensity to put in the QB who is least likely to turn the ball over if our D is stout…but after Miss. St. we found out our D is not near as good as we thought…so, in essence, we had to take the training wheels off the offense. when we did that, Jennings no longer could possess the football hence why Harris is starting @Auburn.
All of this.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:07 pm to Jimmie the Geek
Captain Obvious.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:22 pm to TDTGodfather
quote:True, but they typically have also included the offense component and have not been stuck on many low sides of final scores, hi or lo.
you know who else wins with running game and defense, Alabama.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:45 pm to BayouBengals03
Read your own post. You said with AJ we win ton mor gamesbin 2011 and 2012. That's not possible since we won them all in 2011. I somewhat get your original post and as a fan agree. But this masterpiece about winning more games that year was inaccurate and not true.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:55 pm to Kirby4life
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Read your own post. You said with AJ we win ton mor gamesbin 2011 and 2012. That's not possible since we won them all in 2011. I somewhat get your original post and as a fan agree. But this masterpiece about winning more games that year was inaccurate and not true.
Dude, you can't read.
I said we'd win a ton of games in 2011 and 2012 with Jennings at quarterback. No where did I say we would win more games than we did in either season.
And you can barely form sentences. I don't think you are qualified to recognize masterpieces.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:15 pm to Jimmie the Geek
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NMST was AJ's dress rehearsal with a more open offense in preparation for Auburn and he did not play well with 3 TO's.
Harris played against the same NM St. team and lead us on 7 TD drives (ZERO TO's), I don't get your point, how is Harris "suspect."
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:20 pm to Choupique19
Les likes to win in the most manliest way. By beating teams down with an overpowering running game, badass D and good special teams. Which when we have all of that, I like watching it. Of coarse we have none of that now, so it's time to change. I don't think Les is as dumb as people think He is. He just likes to play a bruising style of football. And he is adapting. May not be as fast as some of us would like, but it is taking place. I do agree that AJ would still be starting if we had the defense and special teams of 2011. He wouldn't need our QB to make the kinds of plays that will be called for this year.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:28 pm to Jimmie the Geek
what? So it doesn't matter who the better QB is? Doesn't matter how our O looks? It matters how our D is....
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:00 pm to Jimmie the Geek
I'm sorry and no offense, but this was one of the lamest post ever. Just sit back and enjoy the show.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:22 pm to BayouBengals03
Dude, its a freaking forum type environment. Expect typos and auto correct errors. Secondly, stop acting like an a-hole because your point was called out as lame. Grow a pair and stop taking things personally. Its a rant forum! Get over yourself!
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:37 pm to KG5989
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So it doesn't matter who the better QB is?
Nope, didn't matter in 2011 either, huh?
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Doesn't matter how our O looks?
I promised you that if Miles could run over teams like in the 2011, we would be doing that and wouldn't need to play BH. Again, if I'm wrong why didn't JL play the ENTIRE 2011 season even though he proved he could handle it up to the Bama game, which was in the beginning of November? Over half the season was done and we were killing teams. It is not like I'm making shite up. This actually happened.
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It matters how our D is....
This year, yes.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:01 pm to Kirby4life
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Secondly, stop acting like an a-hole because your point was called out as lame.
My point was not called out as lame.
My point was that Jennings is perfectly capable of winning a lot of games on a team where he can be a game manager. On a team with a great running game and defense, where we can control clock and wear down the opponent.
Like I said, if Jennings were the starting quarterback in 2011 and 2012, we would have won a ton of games in those years. But in 2014, we can't control the game like we used to.
If you want to misinterpret that, that's on you.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:24 pm to BayouBengals03
This thread is like walking out of a room that you have been passing gas in but you don't realize how foul it is until you walk back in 10 minutes later after breathing fresh air. Basically the premise is that if our defense was otherworldly like in 2011 then Jennings would be starting because he is the upperclassmen and wouldn't have to take any risks and we wouldn't know how much better Harris is. It's silly. Harris is clearly the better player and the proof says it isn't close. I like AJ. I wanted him to succeed but Harris looks special. We should have a more definitive assessment Saturday
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:00 am to BayouBengals03
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My point was not called out as lame.
My point was that Jennings is perfectly capable of winning a lot of games on a team where he can be a game manager. On a team with a great running game and defense, where we can control clock and wear down the opponent.
Like I said, if Jennings were the starting quarterback in 2011 and 2012, we would have won a ton of games in those years. But in 2014, we can't control the game like we used to.
If you want to misinterpret that, that's on you.
Lets agree on that part then and move on. This is not the week to be at each other as Tiger Fans about minor details of the past. We have to get ready to kick AU's arce and I, for one, believe that will be the case!! Go Tigers!!
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