re: I'm seeing a lot of talk about Nuss's injury

So you think Nicholls, South Alabama and UCLA last year are all tougher than going on the road at Clemson or playing a rivalry game against Florida?

We played 1 true away game last year at this time and had a fan base willing to travel to Vegas for a neutral site game, so not exactly enemy territory.

I think you may be the more casual fan my friend if you can't even admit that to yourself

Also, your narrative about Nuss's stats don't hold too much weight after 6 of those passing TDs came against Nicholls State of all teams, so the stats aren't as far off as you would like to make it seem.

The Barion Brown TD getting called back against Clemson was also BS, so it's basically the exact same TD passes, but with less passing yards because they were playing better opponents.

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mean his first 5 games this season are a lot tougher than what he faced last year.

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Last season, in his first 5 games, he passed for 285 yards in his lowest yardage passing game with at least 2 TDs in any of those games. This season, his best passing game was 273 yards vs SELA, and he has only 1 TD pass in any game except for SELA. That's not simply tougher opponents.

I would say that both Clemson and Florida's defenses that have actual NFL talent are significantly tougher to play than playing against the defenses of Nicholls, South Alabama and UCLA (who went 1-5 to start the year last season) and if you don't agree with that I don't know what to tell you.

If you want to give Nuss his flowers for throwing 11 of his 17 passing TDs through 5 games last year against those three teams, than have at it, but the narrative that he's drastically different this year compared to last isn't as strong as you make it out to be.

I also couldn't care less about how many yards he throws a game as long as we win the game at the end of the day.

So you’re going to nit pick one pass throughout the duration of an entire game where he threw for 3 TDs and completed 80% of his throws to say he’s clearly nursing an injury?

Okay so not 1 throw but 2 throws out of 31 passes that you dissected where they looked “off”?? Got it.

QBs aren’t perfect every game, man. Even the great ones will have throws that will leave you scratching your head from time-to-time.

80% completion percentage with 3 TDs and 1 rushing TD is pretty close to perfect, but if you want to dive into all of his throws, I’m sure you can find a handful where he was 100% healthy but they looked funny.

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What a load of crap. You could just quit deflecting and admit you are wrong.

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You are obviously deflecting. You never even addressed my response outside of “Admit you’re wrong!”

He threw 6 TDs against Nicholls. While a great accomplishment, I don’t think anyone is shocked that he was able to do this against a team of that caliber.

He threw 2 more TDs against South Alabama and 3 against UCLA. While UCLA is actually a Power 5 school in a good conference, they aren’t exactly at the top of the food chain in the Big 10 and had a losing record last year. They literally just fired their head coach because they’ve been so bad.

If you genuinely think that is tougher playing those teams at home than playing at preseason No. 4 Clemson, at home against Florida in a rivalry game with a good defense, and at No. 13 Ole Miss where we haven’t won since 2019, then you just aren’t being honest.

The three toughest matchups through the first five games last year (USC, UCLA, SC), Nuss threw 7 TDs.

In the three toughest matchups this season through five games (Clemson, Florida, Ole Miss), he has 3 TDs (you should really give me 4 since we all know that Barion Brown reversal against Clemson was BS).

Not nearly as far off as you want to make people think.

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Against Clemson, whose passing defense was #80, Nuss threw for 232 Against LA Tech, whose passing defense was #108, Nuss threw for 237 Against Florida, whose passing defense was #55, Nuss threw for 220 Against Ole Miss, whose passing defense was #21, Nuss threw for 197

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I assume this is what they are ranked currently and not at the time that we played them? I mean Ole Miss is 100th nationally in rush defense and you saw how well we ran the ball against them. Stats like this don’t necessarily equate to on field success like you think they do.

Also, that only further proves my point strength of schedule wise. I mean are you really going to sit there and boast that he threw 17 TD passes last season through 5 games against Nicholls and two teams ranked 117 and 134 in pass defense?

This doesn’t seem to fit your narrative either.

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More binary thinking. I never said Nuss was elite. You are the one obsessed with that concept and convinced there is no in-between from that to him sucking. His play last year wasn’t elite, even though it was better than this, and it would have taken a major improvement this year for anyone to put him in that conversation.

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This entire thread is about how Nuss’s play is about on par with who he was last year. I never said he was elite. You only inferred that because you didn’t read. I said he’s not an elite talent. Big difference.

He can make some good throws, but outside of the Ole Miss 4th down throw last year, I haven’t seen too many that he’s made that I would consider next level.

This isn’t to say he’s a bad QB. He is just very limited and the same problems last year are the same problems this year (refusal to step up in the pocket, leaves as soon as he feels pressure, refusal to run and take what the defense is giving him).

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What I said is he’s had a dramatic drop in production over his performance last year to this point with a better group of WRs around him. Taylor was also hurt early last year, so he has more depth at TE, as well. That plus the decrease in velocity and range on his throws, particularly vs Tech and OM, point to injury being a major factor.

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The dramatic drop in production is because he faced South Alabama (finished 134th in past defense last year), UCLA (fisnhec 118th in past defense last year), and Nicholls. 11 TDs came from those three games alone. You might but I don’t really consider that the upper echelon of CFB that he was competing against.

You may think injury is a factor and it may to a small degree but he’s about the same as where he was last year if you are just focusing on the three toughest games this year vs last year:

1. He had 7 TDs against USC, SC and UCLA
2. He has 3 TDS against Clemson, Florida and Ole Miss (you should give me 4 because that Barion Brown reversal was total BS)

Sounds like you are also have some binary thinking because you can have a good defense and still be a bad team. Case in point, Clemson and Florida.

I also will give you SC was probably the more difficult game, but they win that game if Sellers doesn’t go down. Also, USC lost 5 games too and they sucked last year.

At this point, I think most would agree that at Clemson, at Ole Miss and Florida is much harder than 2024 USC at a neutral site, at SC and home to UCLA.