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re: I'll ask it. Why did Mett get no meaningful snaps last year?

Posted on 9/10/12 at 9:17 am to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 9:17 am to
It may not have.

We'll never know, and that's what sucks.
Posted by Random LSU Hero
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 9:19 am to
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I'll ask it. Why did Mett get no meaningful snaps last year?


Posted by Jdawgz
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 10:42 am to
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No, I know how and I know why. The why is because Lee threw two picks in the Alabama game, JJ came in and helped us win that game, and the rest is history.


Actually the QB change had already happened before the picks against Bama. Jefferson was playing more in the previous games. So the previous poster is stating a response on why change something that is working is why did we go from Lee to a Jefferson/Lee to a Jefferson when the 1st was working.
Posted by White Tiger
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 11:59 am to
Finally some agrees with me!
Posted by White Tiger
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 12:01 pm to
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Let it go and join most of the rest of us
Koolaid drinkers. Just kidding. Still think that CLM should have done much better game planning the biggest game of his career. That's all.
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 12:08 pm to
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Could Lee have come in and moved the ball? Anything is possible, but history suggests otherwise.


History also suggested Bama's kicker never attempt another FG vs us after the first game. He redeemed himself well on 1/9.

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You want to start handing out blame for the NC game? Start with the poor game plan and then move to the offensive line.


The blame for 1/9 starts and ends with Les. Both JJ and DeAngelo more than hinted in post-game interviews that the game plan was to go 5-wide and attack Bama ala Utah. We didn't do that. BTW, that plan has a lot of merit.

The 1/9 debacle started way before any missed-block on 1/9. It started when Les decided to mothball an O that was used successfully for 8 weeks and was still maturing; unmitigated football stupidity. The warnings and warblers started in the 1st and early 2nd qtr vs Arky, were deafening in the 1st half vs UGA, and total implosion on 1/9.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 12:19 pm to
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Message Posted by Hot Carl He was 3rd string. How many 3rd stringers get "meaningful" reps?
"string" means nothing in a Les Miles offense. The most talented players are often not necessarily 1st string. (does not mean they don't get to play, but is an irrelevant marker for this discussion).
Posted by White Tiger
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 12:53 pm to
That is what a friend of mine who attended 1/9 said as well. It defies explanation. The post game interview was telling. He had nothing to say except that he "did not see this coming."
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 1:04 pm to
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The 1/9 debacle started way before any missed-block on 1/9. It started when Les decided to mothball an O that was used successfully for 8 weeks and was still maturing; unmitigated football stupidity. The warnings and warblers started in the 1st and early 2nd qtr vs Arky, were deafening in the 1st half vs UGA, and total implosion on 1/9.


This is a brilliant piece of 20/20 hindsight. Cause you know everyone knew there'd be a rematch after Nov last year. The "maturing" offense would not have won the Nov game at Bama without Jefferson. Alabama has lost a grand total of 6 games since the start of the 2008 season, Jordan Jefferson was the key QB in 2 of those 6.

I'm not reading thru all these pages of what I'm sure is unmitigated stupidiy at the rants finest. QB play was really not an issue for LSU last year. The team went 13-0, won the SEC and made the BCS CG. Only an unprecedented rematch kept them from winning the NC. Anyone that thinks, Lee or even Mettenberger would have made a difference is just wishful thinking. Tim Tebow is arguably the best QB in SEC histroy. His last SEC game was a 21 point loss to Alabama. Yes, the scored and crossed the 50, how many times was Urban's O held to 13? Tyler Wilson is projected as a first round pick, how did he do vs this same Bama D last year?

Its time to let it go, it was a bad break to have to play Bama twice, but they needed and got a lot of breaks to get into the BCS CG. Not the least of whcih is the SEC brand that so many of you rooted for. Its over, no QB short of Drew Brees or Cam Newton could have made a differnce for LSU on 1/9.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 1:07 pm to
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History also suggested Bama's kicker never attempt another FG vs us after the first game. He redeemed himself well on 1/9.


wow, what a stupid comparison. The kicks missed by Alabama in Nov were all over 45 yds, outside on grass. I don't think any of the ones they made, indoors on turf on 1/9 were longer than the ones they missed.

Jarret Lee had 7 picks and 1 TD in his 4 games v Alabama, that's a tad different.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 1:16 pm to
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I'm not reading thru all these pages of what I'm sure is unmitigated stupidiy at the rants finest.


Thou sayest.

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QB play was really not an issue for LSU last year


Exactly which games were you watching?

Mr. Jefferson's "play" was awful, inept, inefficient to say the least. LSU won despite the pathetic productivity at QB last year. As I had predicted, it cost the NCG because LM, for reasons known only to him, did not see "it" coming.

Sad but true, IMHO.

Posted by KT70
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 1:21 pm to
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Why did Mett get no meaningful snaps last year?


Miles is racist?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 1:34 pm to
Jefferson had a leg up on the competition.
Posted by Larry Hollins
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 1:37 pm to
the real question of this thread should be, Why didn't LM go after Wilson (qb that went to wisconsin) when lm found out wilson was looking to transfer. I don't think playing mett would have won the NC game but with Wilson at qb we would have definitely won the nc game.
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 2:02 pm to
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Quite ironic.




no shite

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by SL Tiger
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 2:37 pm to
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Rivers is likely the 2013 starter


I wouldn't bet the farm on that. With another year behind him, I think our current 3rd string will be a much more dangerous option at QB. That and I wouldn't bet against either of our current commits for next year. I'll feel even stronger about my position if Miles doesn't give him much playing time this year.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 2:40 pm to
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This is a brilliant piece of 20/20 hindsight. Cause you know everyone knew there'd be a rematch after Nov last year. The "maturing" offense would not have won the Nov game at Bama without Jefferson.


I always considered JJ part of the maturing offense, but not the centerpiece. Moreover, no one knows how the game would have played out had JL continued playing. One TD, one play would have won it in regulation.

ETA: Wasn't just hindsight. Gary Danielson (whom most regard as informed/competent) suggested a change may be necessary during the 2nd qtr of the Arky game.

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Alabama has lost a grand total of 6 games since the start of the 2008 season, Jordan Jefferson was the key QB in 2 of those 6.


I'm not anti-JJ at all. My criticisms aren't with him, but to refute the logic here, Bama played in two BCSCG since '09 and both were blowouts of which Jordan Jefferson was the key QB in 1 of those.

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Anyone that thinks, Lee or even Mettenberger would have made a difference is just wishful thinking. Tim Tebow is arguably the best QB in SEC histroy. His last SEC game was a 21 point loss to Alabama. Yes, the scored and crossed the 50, how many times was Urban's O held to 13?


Well, for the record that was '09. Same year that JL led a TD drive vs Bama in Tuscaloosa.

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No QB short of Drew Brees or Cam Newton could have made a differnce for LSU on 1/9.


This is less than sober.


This post was edited on 9/10/12 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 2:50 pm to
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I'm not reading thru all these pages of what I'm sure is unmitigated stupidiy at the rants finest. QB play was really not an issue for LSU last year. The team went 13-0, won the SEC and made the BCS CG. Only an unprecedented rematch kept them from winning the NC. Anyone that thinks, Lee or even Mettenberger would have made a difference is just wishful thinking. Tim Tebow is arguably the best QB in SEC histroy. His last SEC game was a 21 point loss to Alabama. Yes, the scored and crossed the 50, how many times was Urban's O held to 13? Tyler Wilson is projected as a first round pick, how did he do vs this same Bama D last year?
We've lititgated this to death but I think, in all fairness, the people who are still unhappy about it are just as unhappy not about losing, but about the way the loss occurred. Almost as if there was no effort put into the biggest game of the year, at all. This is a hard pill to swallow and frankly was quite embarassing to the program.

If LSU had lost by a field goal to a tough Alabama team you would not see this level of frustration still with Miles and the team, so peole don't trust him when it comes to the QB situation.

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QB play was really not an issue for LSU last year
Did you really just post this? LOL.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/10/12 at 2:53 pm to
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If LSU had lost by a field goal to a tough Alabama team you would not see this level of frustration still with Miles and the team, so peole don't trust him when it comes to the QB situation.


Good point. I mean how can you possibly trust a man who has lost 80% of the games he has coached at LSU to make that important of a decision?
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