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re: If you are looking forward at all, then you should like what you see.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:57 pm to PaperTiger
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:57 pm to PaperTiger
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Again. No one was comparing that
Learn to read
Oh I'm sorry. You weren't using Riley's loss to Iowa State to say that Ed's loss to fricking Troy can happen to first year coaches?
What exactly were you attempting to do then?
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:59 pm to PaperTiger
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All I said was both were the worst loss in both programs history. I said Riley should be scrutinized. You are saying he shouldnt be. That's fine. But I'll argue that the Iowa State loss is pretty bad because it was a conference loss. At least Troy wasnt. That stung bad but it doesn't hurt our conference standings. You think that's a legit argument?
Does this somehow mean that Orgeron shouldn't be scrutinized for getting blown out by State and losing to Troy?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:59 pm to RB10
You were arguing hiring methods.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:02 pm to PaperTiger
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You were arguing hiring methods.
And you're telling me to read? Good Lord.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:02 pm to RB10
Point to me where I implied that. O should be under heavy scrutiny. I think Riley should be too. That's my point. You are saying O should be and Riley shouldn't be.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:03 pm to RB10
That's been your whole debate!? That the two programs aren't close to being similar because one coach was fired and one retired. 
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:07 pm to PaperTiger
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Point to me where I implied that. O should be under heavy scrutiny. I think Riley should be too. That's my point. You are saying O should be and Riley shouldn't be.
Do you really not understand why a coach hired two months before the season starts may get a little longer leash than most?
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That's been your whole debate!? That the two programs aren't close to being similar because one coach was fired and one retired
So, no you don't understand it. That's pretty amazing actually.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:15 pm to RB10
Yeah. In some cases I do. Not with losses like those mentioned though. Any coach that comes in and has the worst loss in program history should be scrutinized, regardless of how they are hired.
Maybe Oklahoma should have made Riley interim. Would have made this debate never happen
Maybe Oklahoma should have made Riley interim. Would have made this debate never happen
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:18 pm to RB10
This isn't even addressing the fact that you can't grasp why a coach who's team is 4-1 with a 7 point loss to p5 Iowa State and win over #9 Ohio State isn't being scrutinized like the coach who's got no wins over ranked opponents, a 30 point loss to Mississippi State and a loss to Sun Belt member Troy.
Take a step back and think about that for a second. Then take into account that the former of the two mentioned coaches was hired TWO frickING MONTHS BEFORE THE START OF THE SEASON.
If you still can't comprehend why the situations aren't even remotely comparable then you're beyond reason.
I get what you're trying to do. Really, I do. You're looking for something to give you reason to believe LSU isn't as bad off as they seem.
The Oklahoma situation is not what we should be using. Just stick with what Dabo's done at Clemson and hope and pray that Orgeon can sniff his later success.
Take a step back and think about that for a second. Then take into account that the former of the two mentioned coaches was hired TWO frickING MONTHS BEFORE THE START OF THE SEASON.
If you still can't comprehend why the situations aren't even remotely comparable then you're beyond reason.
I get what you're trying to do. Really, I do. You're looking for something to give you reason to believe LSU isn't as bad off as they seem.
The Oklahoma situation is not what we should be using. Just stick with what Dabo's done at Clemson and hope and pray that Orgeon can sniff his later success.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:25 pm to RB10
Sorry man. He didn't fly half way across the US to join the staff. He was the current OC. He called the offense that made them 11-2 just last year. The expectations are the same regardless what you feel. You think Oklahoma fans are wrong to blame Riley from a piss poor showing against Iowa State?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:27 pm to PaperTiger
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PaperTiger
Obfuscate, obfuscate, obfuscate.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:27 pm to PaperTiger
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You think Oklahoma fans are wrong to blame Riley from a piss poor showing against Iowa State?
I didn't say that. I said he doesn't deserve near the criticism Orgeron is getting.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:27 pm to RB10
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I get what you're trying to do. Really, I do. You're looking for something to give you reason to believe LSU isn't as bad off as they seem.
True.
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The Oklahoma situation is not what we should be using. Just stick with what Dabo's done at Clemson and hope and pray that Orgeon can sniff his later success.
I was told this was a stupid comparison.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:29 pm to Mo Jeaux
I don't think you understand the meaning of that word. My original post was clear and based on facts. Everyone else only wanted to rip it a part with their blind hatred of O. It was a simple post.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:30 pm to PaperTiger
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I was told this was a stupid comparison.
Dabo took over a program in worse shape than LSU was, and it didn't have near the prestige. The situations are as similar as you're going to find in recent history though.
Biggest difference being Dabo was a complete unknown with no history to speak if while Oregon's history was well known and......less than stellar.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:34 pm to RB10
Oklahoma State is what I felt was more accurate but only debated Oklahoma because that loss was more recent and program wise (fan expectations of maintaining the program) I felt were pretty similar.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:36 pm to PaperTiger
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I don't think you understand the meaning of that word.
Then you're incorrect in your thinking.
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My original post was clear and based on facts. Everyone else only wanted to rip it a part with their blind hatred of O. It was a simple post.
How many posts ago was that original post? You're sure putting a lot of effort and thought into what's happening with that program. The fact that you refer to "blind hatred" of O tells me a lot.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:40 pm to Mo Jeaux
Doesn't tell you anything.
My post was to try and call people down. Not say they were wrong in their feelings of Orgeron.
Its not effort per se, but I respond to people who respond to me. I said the programs were similar but people wanted to rip a hole in the similarities because they want to think the program is in/will be in shambles. Is that wrong?
And yes, that was worded incorrectly on my part.
My post was to try and call people down. Not say they were wrong in their feelings of Orgeron.
Its not effort per se, but I respond to people who respond to me. I said the programs were similar but people wanted to rip a hole in the similarities because they want to think the program is in/will be in shambles. Is that wrong?
And yes, that was worded incorrectly on my part.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:42 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Oh Jesus. After the freaking bar was lowered to below ground level.
So beating a top-20 team on the road...I'm not responsible for the rankings....after getting arse raped by State and losing at home to 20-point underdog Troy....is NOT a step in the right direction?
This is what you're saying correct?
If so....you're a fking idiot.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 5:52 pm to Dudebro2
Problem is the fan base.
Every loss = Everyone from the Governor down, needs to be fired
Every loss = Everyone from the Governor down, needs to be fired
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