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re: If we had a 'mobile' QB like Jevan Snead

Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:50 pm to
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ok so when we talk about a QB's mobility and speed, we can't talk about his timed speed? that makes no sense


No one is claiming he's not fast.

They're claiming he's not mobile.

They're not the same, and you know it.

Just admit you said something that you wish you could take back.
Posted by DonnyBravo
Member since Jan 2008
356 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:50 pm to
No one can talk to you about anything... Cause you don't listen!!!
Posted by DonnyBravo
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356 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:51 pm to
He will never admit it!!
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:52 pm to
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He will never admit it!!


I know.

But he's never going to convince us either, but that doesn't stop him.
Posted by DonnyBravo
Member since Jan 2008
356 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:54 pm to
He will cut and paste- and paste... for page after page--- until he can twist the debate about mobility and measurables , /Then declare he was RIGHT the whole time...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:55 pm to
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Cause you don't listen!!!

LINK

quote:

Snead, on the other hand, might have to add some weight, but he's mobile, has a live deep arm
Posted by beardedzeus
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:56 pm to
This debate didn't start off as a debate over whether or not Snead can be classified as mobile. You said that Ole Miss had a QB with the kind of mobility that used to give Bo Pelini's defenses trouble. I'm arguing that Jevan Snead does not possess THAT kind of mobility. Your argument is that he runs better than a 4.85. I'm saying that doesn't mean he has the kind of mobility that gives a defense trouble.
I don't have Snead's 40 time. You have time to post 150,000 times so you probably also have time to drive to Oxford and time him yourself (try not to get a hard on like you do when you watch all of Florida's great athletes leave everyone else in the dust as they sprint around the field). The only thing I can find is that Rivals has him down as a 4.63 40 out of high school. By comparison they have Flynn down as a 4.53. So take that for what it's worth.
Snead is a very good QB. But his success has absolutely nothing to do with his mobility.
This post was edited on 8/16/09 at 1:58 pm
Posted by DonnyBravo
Member since Jan 2008
356 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:57 pm to
SFP
Ohhh you got me with the cut and paste argument... I must quit posting FOREVER!!!
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:58 pm to
Look, Slow.

It all depends on what your definition of "mobile" is.

When (I would venture to say) most people talk about a QB being "mobile", they mean that he can kill you with his legs if you don't stay true (Vince Young, Michael Vick, Dennis Dixon, etc.).

That is not the case with Snead.

Can he roll out of the pocket? Sure.

Is he fast? Probably.

Do these qualaties mean that any D is ever going to be seriously worried about his legs on every down? Doubt it.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465371 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

I'm arguing that Jevan Snead does not possess THAT kind of mobility.

what kind of mobility was necessary?

quote:

But his success has absolutely nothing to do with his mobility.

his movement in the pocket was VERY necessary last year
Posted by beardedzeus
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 2:02 pm to
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his movement in the pocket was VERY necessary last year


EVERY quarterback's movement in the pocket is VERY necessary in every game. By that logic Tom Brady is mobile and so is Peyton Manning.
This post was edited on 8/16/09 at 2:03 pm
Posted by DonnyBravo
Member since Jan 2008
356 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 2:04 pm to

quote:

LINK


SFP you are exactly right They did use the word Mobile one time IN THE article...

Yea eeeevvvverybody knows Snead is more mobile than TeBow... hahahahaha
You Slay Me Man!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465371 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 2:04 pm to
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By that logic Tom Brady is mobile and so is Peyton Manning.

yeah if they never have to break outside the tackle box. snead did. they don't
Posted by DonnyBravo
Member since Jan 2008
356 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 2:07 pm to
Drop it man----- You will always be the guy digging the hole that's too wrong to be right!!!!

The cool thing to watch is you working sooo hard to never admit it!
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
4474 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 2:07 pm to
How did we go from this

quote:

ole miss was a better team than LSU last year

and they had a mobile QB, which always hurt the bo p D


To this?

quote:

i'll put money up that says he runs better than a 4.85
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
4474 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 2:08 pm to
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yeah if they never have to break outside the tackle box. snead did. they don't


57 carries for 60 yards. Big time running by Snead last season. Including 7 carries for -5 yards against the Malleveto defense.
This post was edited on 8/16/09 at 2:11 pm
Posted by DonnyBravo
Member since Jan 2008
356 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 2:09 pm to
57 carries for how many yards ... Bwahahahahaha
Posted by DonnyBravo
Member since Jan 2008
356 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 2:13 pm to
J. Snead
quote:

G/Att /Yards Avg. TD Att/G Yards/G

13 /57 /60
Posted by DonnyBravo
Member since Jan 2008
356 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 2:15 pm to
Maybe WE should just perhaps...

Call him MOBILE in the pocket! hehehe
This post was edited on 8/16/09 at 2:16 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33709 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 2:33 pm to
no because the defense still would have sucked.
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