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If we are going to talk QBs…..

Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:29 pm
Posted by tigbit
Member since Jun 2011
2800 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:29 pm
JD is the better QB when you consider the dual threat. He won many games for us this season with his legs. Nuss uses our biggest strength, our receivers better, and makes us a more complete team. When JD is off he sits on the ball or throws incompletions. When Nuss is off, he throws interceptions.

There is no clear choice, but I would go with JD assuming they both improve equally for next year.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:31 pm to
Turnovers are meaningless. Nuss bus all the way baws
Posted by thumperpait
Member since Nov 2005
2421 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:51 pm to
Need a QB that will go through their progressions. Can't count how many players we had wide open sprinting down the field open. He'll, burrow would hit them with a db in their back. I would feel more comfortable with giving nuss a shot. Jd played good enough to win some games for us. Just think he has hit his ceiling. And hope the best for the kid. Always had a great personality but would like a QB with some fire in his gut. What I loved about Joe is when he got rocked, he would pop up pissed and then the other team was screwed.
Posted by financetiger38
Member since Nov 2022
3182 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:05 am to
Nuss wouldn’t even need to use his legs to win games because he can do it with his arm. The deep threat also gets the defense to back off which opens up the running game for your actual RBs. If you’re that scared of turning the ball over you shouldn’t have cried about Les Miles for all those years
Posted by JR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2005
1215 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:19 am to
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When Nuss is off, he throws interceptions.


Your basing this on early season speculation, this is pure conjecture from the rant. Prep him to be the starter and you will see a different result.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14808 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:21 am to
STFU

We wasted Boutte’s junior year… now it appears there will be a senior? Cannot make the same mistake twice.

Nuss’ turnovers will be arm punts that won’t hurt. Unlike aborted zone read scoop and scores.
Posted by Htownbayubengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2022
1406 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:30 am to
Nuss hasn't even prepped with the first team, and he was able to do what he did. He will play within the system as the starter, but with the ability to throw a 60 yard rope to a group of talented recs. That in itself will make the running game better. There was zero threat of downfield passing by JD
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14808 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:41 am to
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Nuss hasn't even prepped with the first team, and he was able to do what he did.



People trying to explain this away are imbeciles. What we saw was a cheat code.

Look I’m willing to give Kelly the benefit of the doubt that Nuss didn’t have it yet. But he does now.
Posted by Htownbayubengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2022
1406 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:49 am to
If Daniels stays and Kelly keeps him as starter, we will likely lose nuss and Kelly will have the same offense again next year despite our incredible wr room. It will be the beginning of the end for Kelly
Posted by kobsa
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2021
134 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:17 am to
If JD stays, the QB decision for me is quite simple; a 2-QB system that maximizes both players talents. Nuss is the superior passer and JD is an excellent runner. You can design an offensive playbook that keeps the defenses completely off-balance an entire game because you still can use JD in certain passing plays so opposing Defenses don't sell out on a run option everytime JD is in. In military strategy terminology, you're putting the defenses in the "horns of a dilemma". I think that system can easily work and be quite effective.
Posted by tigbit
Member since Jun 2011
2800 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

If JD stays, the QB decision for me is quite simple; a 2-QB system that maximizes both players talents.


I have no statistical proof, but from observation, you seem to have more drops with a two QB system. I assume the receivers have to adjust to the speed, timing and placement of the passes differently. Now, having two sets (QB and 2 receivers might work. Let's go Offensive Chinese Bandits!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:43 pm to
We have people that are better runners with the ball in their hands than Jayden Daniels.
We can't get JD to at least challenge the defense down the field.

Jd at 10.9 yards per completion is good for 106th and is the epitome of check down charlie.
Posted by kobsa
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2021
134 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:24 pm to
Yeah that is certainly a possibility that the coaches would have to keep the data on in practice. I know 2qbs also interrupts the rhythm and flow a QB gets in so that’s a factor as well.
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