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re: "If LSU fires Les Miles, he will have a job at a major program the next day"

Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:15 am to
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:15 am to
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They can't help it Red. Its pretty clear that the Miles's haters care far more about miles than anyone



truer words....
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
5004 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:44 am to
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Les himself said he wants to coach. You calling him a liar


Yes, I am. You didn't read my entire post.

The argument is that Les is intentionally screwing up his job search so that LSU cannot come back and say he didn't try to get another job. My personal opinion is that Les enjoys getting a truck load of money every month for doing nothing and he is not going to screw that up. He will continue to talk about getting another job and even interviewing for jobs, but he is probably not going to take another job. My guess is that when he interviews he makes it clear he is going to demand something outrageous (i.e. the letter 'Q' being stricken from the English language) that will intentionally sabotage the interview.
He enjoys getting paid for spending all of his free time with his family.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:39 am to
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We were duped for a LONG time.


Lets wait a year or two and then revisit who got duped because right now, I think the jury is out on whether or not O is going to be an upgrade.

The jury is in on Alleve. He is a clown.

Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30281 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:40 am to
This is an easy one.

He simply isn't a great football coach....period.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:41 am to
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Why haven't LSU fans moved the frick on? Why do LSU fans continue to bring up someone who is no longer here?



fixed for the mouth breathers
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:48 am to
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Why hasn't he been snatched up at any half arse decent school, like ESPN said he would?

Because schools know he is a con man who will say anything to get a job, and that the game passed him up long ago.
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:48 am to
This goes to more sports board. He's not my football cosch
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:56 am to
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duped by Miles record, which was a product of the program, and not Miles.


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Les Miles was able to recruit so well, not because he was a great recruiter, but instead because he was at the flagship university


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Miles' record wasn't a product of Miles, but instead a product of first Nick Saban and then later LSU and it's location with its excellent football facilities in a Mecca of recruiting.


you are not a space cowboy, you are a space cadet. you give les miles ZERO credit for his accomplishments at LSU and you ignore many facts. LSU doesn't automatically recruit itself any more than Notre Dame or Tejas does.

NO ONE was duped about a record that lasted as long as miles did. YOU have been duped by your obvious bias and close mindedness and are spreading falsehoods to kill any legacy the man has. you should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:03 am to
Frankly, I wish he would've... lessen that buyout.

Still worth it IMHO. Time will tell if my opinion plays out to be worthwhile. Right now I'm in the "A New Hope" phase with Alleva + CEO + Thomas.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48280 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:14 am to
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It means people like Rickdaddy were duped by Miles' record,


Holy shite. Youre reaching Peej level of ignorance.
Miles is the only lsu coach to reach a title game with 100% of his players.
It must hurt your heart to know miles is one of the most accomplished HC in sec history.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48280 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:19 am to
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Totally agree Space Cowboy. Miles lasted as long as he did thanks to some great Defensive hires minus the peveto/? co defensive thing. Funny you mentioned Rickdaddy what a goof




You agree because you don't know the first thing about cfb. I'm sorry facts prove your opinion is ignorant.

Whether you like it not...
Miles tenure at lsu
#1 win % in lsu history
#1 ooc win % in lsu history
7th best win % in sec history
#1 ooc win % in sec history
As many top 5 finishes as Saban, Mac , and Dietzel combined.
Most top 25 finishes in lsu history.
Most top 20 finishes in lsu history.
Most top 15 finishes in lsu history.
Most top 10 finishes in lsu history.
Most top 5 finishes in lsu history.
No program beat more ranked teams than lsu.
No program was ranked in the top 25 more weeks that lsu.
Les miles is one of the most successful coaches in sec history.


I'll take the above FACTS over the proven ignorant opinion of you two girls.
Posted by LosTigres25
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2017
365 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:29 am to
The Head Coach for a major program gets paid to do 5 things.

1. Win- Miles' score based on other SEC schools - A
2. Protect the Brand- Sanctions or other bad press - A
3. Recruit - A+
4. NFL Pipeline-Develop talent- A++
5. Hire and maintain an excellent staff- A

Some of you think Miles duped his way to an 11 year career at LSU by being in the right place at the right time. That's laughable. You cant be lucky for a decade in any big time leadership position. And any higher level executive on this site knows this, without a doubt.

We can criticize Miles' lack of QB recruitment and development thats fair, but the man did alot of things right at LSU as well.

This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 9:39 am
Posted by bengalfan50
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
2691 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:32 am to
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Les miles is one of the most successful coaches in sec history

Les Miles was the coach of one of the most successful programs in SEC history.
FIFY.....
Without the fix you sound like your humping Les's leg and we don't want you doing that in front of company it's embarrassing.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48280 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:35 am to
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The Head Coach for a major program gets paid to do 4-6 main things. Im sure Im missing a couple but 5 of them are:

1. Win- Miles' score based on other SEC schools - A
2. Protect the Brand- Sanctions or other bad press - A
3. Recruit - A+
4. NFL Pipeline-Develop talent- A
5. Hire and maintain an excellent staff- A

Some of you think Miles duped his way to an 11 year career at LSU by being in the right place at the right time. That's laughable. You cant be lucky for a decade in any big time leadership position. And any higher level executive on this site knows this, without a doubt.

We can criticize Miles' lack of QB recruitment and development thats fair, but the man did alot of things right at LSU as well.


Spot on. What you have to realize is,like bama fans, we have a subset of lsu posters that get their sense of self worth from lsu football. When lsu doesnt reach their accepted level of success they feel in adequate as a human. When lsu doesnt win titles they can't walk into their factory with their chest poked out. They truly believe the only thing standing between lsu and a bama type run was Miles. They truly believe any competent coach couldve easily done what miles did. They truly believe winning 10 games every year is easy when facts actually tell you its not. From 2009-2013 only 4 programs in cfb won at least 9 games every year and lsu was one of them.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48280 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:39 am to
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Les Miles was the coach of one of the most successful programs in SEC history.
FIFY.....
Without the fix you sound like your humping Les's leg and we don't want you doing that in front of company it's embarrassing.


No i said it exactly right. Les miles' tenure is one of the most successful in sec history. I'm sorry if that sentence doesnt sit right with you, but that's a you problem.
Les miles is one of the most successful coaches in sec history. Unless you think 7th best win % and #1 ooc win % isnt one of the best tenures. He also accomplished those numbers during the most dominant era of sec football ever.
Its amazing watching you guys go to great lengths to shite on the most successful coach in lsu history.
I know you think the above post is somehow defending or supporting Miles but it's not. The numbers I posted are in no way an opinion. Using minimum games coached obviously.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 9:41 am
Posted by bengalfan50
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
2691 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:41 am to
Again he coached a very successful program. It's about LSU and Les was a place holder in a very successful period despite his inability to coach.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:52 am to
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Some of you think Miles duped his way to an 11 year career at LSU by being in the right place at the right time


Well, maybe just the last few years.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48280 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:57 am to
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Again he coached a very successful program. It's about LSU and Les was a place holder in a very successful period despite his inability to coach.


He took over a program that had 1 top 5 finish in almost 20 years.
Please explain how
2000-4 losses
2001-3 losses
2002-5 losses
2003-1 loss
2004-3 losses
Is a VERY successful program?

Also,he turned a shite Oklahoma State program that had 1 winning season from 1987-2001 into a respectable program and had them winning 8-9 games.

Saban's 1st 3 years at lsu=26-12
Miles 1st 3 years at a far worse situation=21-16


Miles has been more successful than his predecessor at every stop.

Whether you like it or not a miles is one of the most successful most successful coaches in sec history.
I'm sorry facts prove your opinion is shite.

If lsu was so set for success why did saban lose 3 games in year 5?

It must really hurt your heart knowing miles is the most successful coach in lsu history and one of the most successful in sec history.

The simple fact that youre calling 2 top 15 finishes in 5 years, very successful, is glorious. If 2000-2004 was very successful then 2011-2015 was very successful.

But let me guess, 2011-2015 wasnt successful right?


The previous 5 years lsu had as many unranked finishes as top 15 finishes yet thats very successful?
If Miles couldn't coach he wouldnt have turned around Oklahoma state.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 10:04 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:13 am to
Notice how 8-9 wins is good because Miles did it, but a national title and an SEC championship isn't successful because Saban did that lmfao. He then says well we only had one top 5 finish in 20 years (a lie) then blows Miles for top 10, 15 and 25 finishes He had. Truly amazing. And this Miles guy sounds like he's one of the greatest coaches of alltime, where's he coaching now? lol.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 10:25 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48280 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Notice how 8-9 wins is good because Miles did it,


At a program with 1 winning from 1987-2001.
From 1987-2001 OSU won more than 4 games just 3 times.
quote:

but a national title and an SEC championship isn't successful because Saban did that lmfao


Ive literally never said that but hey you repeatedly change people's posts
quote:

He then says well we only had one top 5 finish then posts how many top 10, 15 and 25 finishes Miles had.


The fact that you think posting final rankings is defending or shitting on a coach tells me all i need to know. I'm sorry that there are facts you don't like. Deal with it.
When I posts miles win/loss numbers its not defending.
When I post Saban's win/loss records its not shitting on him.
When I say Miles lost more in his last 5 years than his 1st 5 years its not shitting on him.
When I say Saban set the table for lsu to be a powerhouse program its not supporting saban. Those things happened. I'm sorry those facts dont support all your opinions.

Its a fact that we had 1 top 5 finish in almost 2 decades. Thats not an opinion.
Its a fact that we had 2 top 15(aptcoaches)finishes during Saban's tenure.
Its a fact that miles has the most top 25,top 20,top 15,top 10,and top 5 finishes in lsu history.



I'm sorry some of those facts upset you, but in no way are the above facts shitting or defending someone. They are reality.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 10:32 am
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