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re: If JJ performed like in 09, and so far in 10' but had 2008 defense
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:18 am to EricB
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:18 am to EricB
quote:What was the last game Lee did not turn the ball over in which he got meaningful snaps?
Last game was the first in the last 6 of JJ's starts that he didn't personally turn the ball over himself ATLEAST one time.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:18 am to EricB
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Vandy 40% (away, BCS opponent, 2nd game) >>>>> La Tech 32% (home, WAC opponent, 10th game).
La Tech = last year ; vandy = this year.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:20 am to EricB
quote:Which performance should Lee be evaluated under, then?
La Tech = last year ; vandy = this year.
My theory? You idiots grade Lee by JJ's performance.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:24 am to Roaad
quote:
There is MUCH debate over who has the better arm.
Because of JJ apologist like yourself. Is it warranted? frick no.
Would some video links work for you?
Here ya go
Here ya go again
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:24 am to Lsutim3
quote:Except that he moved the offence into scoring position on five of six drives against MSU.
Jordan Jefferson cant move offense
You know, if you want to ignore the most recent game because it does not support your belief, go ahead and do so.
quote:Only when the receivers drop the ball and the coaches don't call many passes.
Jordan Jefferson has trouble throwing for 100 yards
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:26 am to slackster
Better arm?
As in who can throw it further?
It's probably Jefferson, but they're close.
As in who can throw it further?
It's probably Jefferson, but they're close.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:26 am to just me
Oh yea I forgot. Getting 4 field goals is moving offense after your defense got 5 ints that Damn near put them in field goal range already. shite dude. Nice try though.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:27 am to Lsutim3
quote:Lee has had five games in which he passed for 40% or less. Five out of twelve. That's not good. And those five games came in his last seven games.
I use passing yards.. completion %... Yards per completion... all terrible....
Not to mention if its 3rd and 5 you can bank on it JJ with only throw 3 yard pass
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:27 am to just me
quote:
Only when the receivers drop the bal
Ok, everyone deals with drops, but I will give you this one.
quote:
the coaches don't call many passes.
And you think that has NOTHING to do with JJ's abilities?
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:29 am to Lsutim3
quote:
Oh yea I forgot. Getting 4 field goals is moving offense after your defense got 5 ints that Damn near put them in field goal range already. shite dude. Nice try though.
In complete honesty, of those five drives, how many do you believe stalled due to Jefferson's play?
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:30 am to Antonio Moss
quote:
As in who can throw it further?
No, I mean who can throw it with more velocity on medium to long routes. JL has always throw those passes with more authority. Look, I have not advocated for JJ's benching and I do not think that Lee is a better all around QB, but for Christ's sake, he has a better arm. He makes bad decisions, but he has the better arm.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:30 am to slackster
quote:Shows that #8 is better than both, if viewed in a vacuum.
Here ya go
Both JJ and Lee miss on one pass each.
quote:WTF???!!! JJ put the ball in the same spot on every throw.
Here ya go again
quote:I am an LSU apologist.
JJ apologist
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:31 am to EricB
quote:
What was the last game Lee did not turn the ball over in which he got meaningful snaps?
Interesting that you'd ask this question because the answer is indeed LA TECH 2009. The real question is why are we having to compare a 2008 JL to 2010 JJ. JJ's performance in 2010 thus far should be reason enough to have seen "meaningful" snaps from JL. Then again, it took JL getting hurt to see JJ come in 2008. CLM hasn't learned from 2008 obviously.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:31 am to Antonio Moss
quote:bet he'd need 20 seconds for the wind up. . .
As in who can throw it further?
It's probably Jefferson
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:32 am to slackster
quote:
No, I mean who can throw it with more velocity on medium to long routes. JL has always throw those passes with more authority. Look, I have not advocated for JJ's benching and I do not think that Lee is a better all around QB, but for Christ's sake, he has a better arm. He makes bad decisions, but he has the better arm.
Dude, Jefferson has an absolute cannon. In fact, sometimes I think he throws it too hard.
Not that Lee's arm is bad, but because it isn't. If anything the difference between the two is minimal.
And arm velocity isn't one of our problems.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:32 am to EricB
quote:What else is there to base it on? Hopes and dreams?
The real question is why are we having to compare a 2008 JL to 2010 JJ
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:32 am to slackster
quote:
Here ya go
Here ya go again
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:32 am to Roaad
quote:
WTF???!!! JJ put the ball in the same spot on every throw.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:32 am to Antonio Moss
quote:
of those five drives, how many do you believe stalled due to Jefferson's play?
all of them...if the staff had more confidence in Jefferson, they might have called more aggressive stuff.
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