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re: "If BH could just be average...."
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:33 pm to Ltown_tiger
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:33 pm to Ltown_tiger
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Both Mauck and Flynn were average quarterback with really good football IQ
I agree on Flynn. Mauck has some of the best numbers in lsu history.
3rd in lsu history in pass tds
3rd in completion %
Led the sec in pass efficiency.
Had he not gotten hurt in 2002 he may own every lsu passing record except qb rating and compl % ( JRUSS has these by a good margin)
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:48 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I agree. He did put up great numbers. But I think BH has a higher ceiling. I still see Mauck as average. Didn't make throw after throw where you were like how in the hell did he do that.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:55 pm to dinosaur
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I agree that averaging 250 yards a game is not realistic. But I would think we would see some improvement over last season's passing game, with OK or acceptable play overall early in the season, but with clear improvement by the end of the season. Is that too much to expect?
It's not too much to expect, but the OP skipped clear improvement and went straight to all-time great
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:00 pm to KingofthePoint
EXPECT may be strong but I would not put BH in an average category either. He is a bright and hard working young athlete. That does not even speak of his talent
Like someone said earlier, with the O Line I believe he is going to have, this is the year to develop into something special.
I want it for these amazing recruits who CHOSE Baton Rouge as their home. I want it for the few that elected not to go to the draft early. And, of course, I want it for us... The REAL Tiger fans.
Like someone said earlier, with the O Line I believe he is going to have, this is the year to develop into something special.
I want it for these amazing recruits who CHOSE Baton Rouge as their home. I want it for the few that elected not to go to the draft early. And, of course, I want it for us... The REAL Tiger fans.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:02 pm to Jeffreylebowski
It all boils down to the fact that we threw away a year of BH's in-game development and got nothing in return.
It is good that he is the starter, obviously, but it also puts the spotlight on how badly the 2014 season was handled. If we were going to get shitty QB play, why not have it serve a purpose by getting BH experience?
It is good that he is the starter, obviously, but it also puts the spotlight on how badly the 2014 season was handled. If we were going to get shitty QB play, why not have it serve a purpose by getting BH experience?
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:16 pm to rmnldr
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What if BH's hail mary was a touchdown?
I sit on that end zone line and for 5 seconds I thought that Quinn had caught that Hail Mary.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:20 pm to rmnldr
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LSU was almost a 12 win team last year. It's certainly possible. What if BH's hail mary was a touchdown? What if Vadal wasn't penalized at the goal line? What if Alabama didn't come back and they play with a pulse @ Arkansas? What if Chavis actually put effort into the game plan vs Notre Dame?
That's a two-way street. We just as easily could've been a 5 win team.
What if Florida doesn't fumble late and give us the chance to kick the winning 50 yard FG
What if Bo Wallace doesn't take matters into his own hands and throw that ridiculous INT at the end and they kick a tying FG to go to OT
What if the A&M ref calls us offsides when their QB throws an INT when he thought he had a free play. They're in our territory for a potentially game-winning drive.
So many games come down to a crucial play or two every year. If you're being honest, you've got to include both sides.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:24 pm to Jeffreylebowski
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The overwhelming opinion is that if BH can just be average that LSU would have a really good season
Why do some people assume the LSU QB determines the fate of the LSU season?
In 2013 we had a QB that made fans happy with his play. Did he make the season special?
Did we learn nothing from one of the greatest seasons in LSU history...2011. It's not ALL about our QB.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:25 pm to Jeffreylebowski
quote:Because this is tRant.
Why are we not expecting him to be really good?
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:35 pm to Jeffreylebowski
I've said this exact same thing man. Jennings is the guy you say, if he can just be average. Harris is the guy who could be JT Barrett good.
People need to go read up on articles about guys like Manziel and Barrett who didn't do enough to earn the starting jobs the spring before their breakout years. Manziel was beat out in the spring and spring game (where he threw 2 ints) by a guy who won't even be playing college ball. Barrett and Cardele Jones looked bad in their open spring practice/game type of thing last year.
Harris has the talent in him and around him, and if the light bulb has clicked, we will be the team to beat outside of Ohio State.
People are too afraid to say he will be good. Just hoping he'll be average. Harris will either be one of two things, and neither is mediocre game manager.
People need to go read up on articles about guys like Manziel and Barrett who didn't do enough to earn the starting jobs the spring before their breakout years. Manziel was beat out in the spring and spring game (where he threw 2 ints) by a guy who won't even be playing college ball. Barrett and Cardele Jones looked bad in their open spring practice/game type of thing last year.
Harris has the talent in him and around him, and if the light bulb has clicked, we will be the team to beat outside of Ohio State.
People are too afraid to say he will be good. Just hoping he'll be average. Harris will either be one of two things, and neither is mediocre game manager.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Holy shite. You do realize that 250 total yards per game would be the 2nd best offensive season in lsu history, right? So no its not doable unless BHARRIS has abetter season than all but 2 lsu qbs ,ever.
It is very doable with his talent and our pass catchers.
2700 pass yards 550 rush yards. Mett had 2630 pass yards in 2012 with Stud and Miles calling the plays. With a mediocre OL and the only experienced pass catchers being Beckham, Boone, and Shepard.
I'm not thinking light on Harris at all. If I'm wrong, I'm just wrong, but I see Harris having a breakout type year. You can bookmark this post and I'll eat crow later if proven to be wrong, but I see him having a really good season.
320 pass attempts 2700 yards 62% 25 TDs 10 ints
105 rush attempts 500 yards 7 TDs
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:50 pm to LSU Groupee
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Why do some people assume the LSU QB determines the fate of the LSU season? In 2013 we had a QB that made fans happy with his play. Did he make the season special? Did we learn nothing from one of the greatest seasons in LSU history...2011. It's not ALL about our QB.
QB is the most important position on the field.
Also, Jarrett Lee's stats from 2011:
104-167. 62.3%. 1306 yards. 7.8 yards per attempt. 14 TD. 3 INT. QBR 152
Those are excellent numbers.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:05 pm to Datbayoubengal
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320 pass attempts 2700 yards 62% 25 TDs 10 ints
So you expect a true sophomore to have the 4th best passing season in lsu history and the 3rd best season completion % in lsu history.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:08 pm to KingofthePoint
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It's not too much to expect,
Yes it is. You can't expect a true sophomore to have the 3rd best yards per game season in lsu history.
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but the OP skipped clear improvement and went straight to all-time great
If BHARRIS accounts for 250 yards per game then he will have the 3rd best total yardage season in lsu history. So if he does average 250 yards per game he will be an all time great.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:10 pm to Scoop
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why not have it serve a purpose by getting BH experience
Did you forget about his high ankle sprain against Auburn?
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:12 pm to atltiger6487
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Why do some people assume the LSU QB determines the fate of the LSU season? In 2013 we had a QB that made fans happy with his play. Did he make the season special? Did we learn nothing from one of the greatest seasons in LSU history...2011. It's not ALL about our QB.
You're right it isn't all about the QB, but if the QB sucks(like the 2nd half of 2011) we have no chance of a great season. If he performs well we have a fighting chance.
QB is the most important position on the field.
Also, Jarrett Lee's stats from 2011:
104-167. 62.3%. 1306 yards. 7.8 yards per attempt. 14 TD. 3 INT. QBR 152
Those are excellent numbers.
Those were excellent numbers, but Miles knew better and gave Jordan Jefferson the baton and gave us the best team in LSU history only to not fulfill our potential and ultimately become a footnote in CFB history. Yea, QB isn't a critical position.
Why do some people assume the LSU QB determines the fate of the LSU season? In 2013 we had a QB that made fans happy with his play. Did he make the season special? Did we learn nothing from one of the greatest seasons in LSU history...2011. It's not ALL about our QB.
You're right it isn't all about the QB, but if the QB sucks(like the 2nd half of 2011) we have no chance of a great season. If he performs well we have a fighting chance.
QB is the most important position on the field.
Also, Jarrett Lee's stats from 2011:
104-167. 62.3%. 1306 yards. 7.8 yards per attempt. 14 TD. 3 INT. QBR 152
Those are excellent numbers.
Those were excellent numbers, but Miles knew better and gave Jordan Jefferson the baton and gave us the best team in LSU history only to not fulfill our potential and ultimately become a footnote in CFB history. Yea, QB isn't a critical position.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:22 pm to TigerStripes30
Well it is that time of year when optimism reigns supreme. Brandon can be an average QB and LSU will be pretty good assuming the front 7 on D play fairly well.
If Brandon is quite a bit better than average, the Tigers can be a contender for the playoffs assuming again the front 7 play well.
If Brandon is quite a bit better than average, the Tigers can be a contender for the playoffs assuming again the front 7 play well.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:43 pm to Jeffreylebowski
quote:He fits our offensive system. LSU's? Not so much
There is a reason why Ohio State and Auburn wanted him, and BAD
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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So you expect a true sophomore to have the 4th best passing season in lsu history and the 3rd best season completion % in lsu history.
If that's what it takes, then yeah.
7 of the top 10 LSU single season passing records come from after the year 2000. As a matter of fact, Miles' QBs claims 5 of the top 9 single season passing (than means half of his tenure we have been blessed with 5 of LSU's 10 best single season passing yardage leaders). Asking for 2700 yards with the type of talent and OC we have in these modern times geared towards offense, is not a lot. You have just been brainwashed by the 4 years between Flynn and Mett when he didn't have a QB coach or an OC worth a flip.
On the other note, 62% is not asking much at all. It's actually insane that it would rate that high in LSU history.
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:54 pm to dstone12
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All of a sudden, we went from an 8 or 9 win team to SEC championship contenders in a matter of a week.
We won 8 games withthe worst QB in the NCAA, why would you not expect a better year by a guy that has beat him out? I'm not sure we are at the level to win the SEC but I do expect to win 10+ games this year with BH as QB.
There are stats that prove that you need a few key things to win in the SEC and the #1 is O-Line experience. We have the most experience of any of the SEC teams except Arkansas, I think we are deeper than any team. This is why if we get good to average QB play, this team could be special! When Bama was making their run this was the advantage they had over everyone.
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