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re: I think there needs to be a LOT more concern/fear of Oregon's offense

Posted on 8/9/11 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by GoDucks349
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 4:13 pm to
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Thought you would. On a serious note LSU has a very nice 2 deep on defense, so I don't anticipate any wearing down on defense even if we only sub in between possessions.


That's a good point and that IS one of the tricks to dealing with the pace of play. As long as the offense doesn't sub the defense can't sub either so the Ducks will stick with the guys on the field as much as allowed. This can be a problem for defenses as they can't sub based on down and distance like traditional football allows.

The other trick, and this needs to be FIXED (rules change) are the fake injuries. You'd think some of these opponents were soccer teams the way the fall down to stop play.
Posted by GoDucks349
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 4:17 pm to
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Who knows you may be right, but we're use to being told this everytime we play one of the "tradition rich" schools. And that's why we play the game.




I wouldn't have even mentioned last year...but you've lost alot of players and are very inexperienced on the lines.


I'm not an expert on this, but my recollection is that the Ducks used 9 d-line men most of last year. They sub a lot to keep people fresh. My point is that they may have more experience than people give them credit for. Just not "starter" experience. It would be interesting to see if I'm correct on this. I may see if I can find something on "playing time" experience for the Ducks
Posted by schexyoung
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 4:49 pm to
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The other trick, and this needs to be FIXED (rules change) are the fake injuries. You'd think some of these opponents were soccer teams the way the fall down to stop play.


Was that the CAL game last year?

I would be alot more worried if our staff didn't have all summer to prepare different packages for your personnel groupings. I wouldn't be suprised it we had six DBs on the field for the majority of the defensive snaps.

I know everyone is captivated by the LSU D vs Oregon O, but what's your opinion on your run defense when LSU comes out with twin TE's and a FB? Can Oregon's D handle that pounding for extended periods?

IMO thsi mirrors LSU's inability to practice against Oregons O scheme.
Posted by BellottiBold
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:02 pm to
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I know everyone is captivated by the LSU D vs Oregon O, but what's your opinion on your run defense when LSU comes out with twin TE's and a FB? Can Oregon's D handle that pounding for extended periods?


The only thing any of us can really point to when you ask how Oregon might weather a powerful physical running game for 4 quarters is Stanford. Stanford talent is not your talent, but they've been mighty big and impressive in recent years. They always move the ball on us, and they put points on the board. The problem is that we score faster, and more consistently. If any of us are confident about our chances against LSU, it's likely we're thinking "yea you'll move the ball, and points on the board, but not like us." Personally, I still can't decide how this one plays out.
Posted by schexyoung
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:08 pm to
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They always move the ball on us, and they put points on the board. The problem is that we score faster, and more consistently.


Agreed from having the chance to watch a few of those matchups over the last few years. IMO LSU's athletic ability is in another league compared to Stanfords on both sides of the ball. However, we don't have Luck under center.

Posted by PDXAnas
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:09 pm to
I like the fact that the game will be played on a fast surface. Oregon's O particularly thrives on the artificial turf.
Posted by schexyoung
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:17 pm to
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I like the fact that the game will be played on a fast surface. Oregon's O particularly thrives on the artificial turf.


This is one aspect that I find interesting, as LSU always looks forward to playing on articial turf for the speed advantage.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:22 pm to
I don't understand the thinking of LSU fans who think our guys don't get tired>

We have been "loaded" on defense for years, but every time we lose I see our guys being dragged around and replaced due to exhaustion.

Oregon will be tired, but they practice that pace every day. LSU WILL BE TIRED ALSO! Actually, that is wht I am most worried about. You cannot substitute linemen on D when Oregon is running that pace. To me, that diminishes teh upper hand we have with our Dline agaisnt their o line with 2 starters returning!
ANY team with the QB and RB returning from an offense that averaged what they did, is as dangerous as any team in the country.
And sorry, I am NOT sold on LSU and JJ going up and down the field on anyone! We sure couldn't early in the year against McNeese last year! If JJ and the offense is "rusty", look for LSU to be playing from behind. If so, that means alot of passing..Do you think JJ is up for that? Sorry, I think he is bad bad and worse in that scenario.
I've seen it too many times, our offense does great with weeks to prepare, but goes to sleep after halftime adjsutments by the D.
ANd now with the new coordinator, who knows what we'll look like.

Posted by BamaScoop
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:26 pm to
It's duck season in Texas baby!!!!




This post was edited on 8/9/11 at 5:27 pm
Posted by 41bengal
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:32 pm to
I'm getting more and more annoyed day to day with the respect Oregon gets and the under appreciation that this defense gets. If we go out there and think they are going to go up and down the field on us they will. That is why I can't wait till this game gets here and everybody gives use the respect we deserve. We haven't lost to a non conference opponent other than Penn state and the field was horrible so I don't count that as a L.
Posted by GoDucks349
Westfir
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:38 pm to
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The other trick, and this needs to be FIXED (rules change) are the fake injuries. You'd think some of these opponents were soccer teams the way the fall down to stop play.




[quote]Was that the CAL game last year?

It was pretty much EVERY game last year. Stanford, ASU, Cal, etc. and the list goes on and on.

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I would be alot more worried if our staff didn't have all summer to prepare different packages for your personnel groupings. I wouldn't be suprised it we had six DBs on the field for the majority of the defensive snaps.


That would be really interesting to see.

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I know everyone is captivated by the LSU D vs Oregon O, but what's your opinion on your run defense when LSU comes out with twin TE's and a FB? Can Oregon's D handle that pounding for extended periods?

IMO thsi mirrors LSU's inability to practice against Oregons O scheme.


I'll agree this concerns me a bit. Stanford did this to us a few years ago and they just won the line out right. It was a long day for the Ducks. But.... I think they solved that problem. The Ducks defense will be agressive and attack all day long. Hopefully they get enough tackles for losses to stop the LSU drives. They will do everything to get LSU to throw the ball. All of Auburns big plays on scoring drives were passes. Ohio St had a record day passing out of Pryor in the Rose Bowl to take Oregons defense apart. I suspect, LSU will have to complete passes to keep the offense moving. Going strickly with a running game against Oregon will be a tough way to try and win the game.

Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:42 pm to
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Oregon will be tired, but they practice that pace every day. LSU WILL BE TIRED ALSO! Actually, that is wht I am most worried about. You cannot substitute linemen on D when Oregon is running that pace. To me, that diminishes teh upper hand we have with our Dline agaisnt their o line with 2 starters returning!


Spencer Ware said today that the team has been running "tempo drills" since spring where the offense runs a play every 8 seconds to get the team ready for that Oregon O. Hearing that makes me feel a lot better about LSUs ability to handle the Ducks' O and not get tired.
This post was edited on 8/9/11 at 5:45 pm
Posted by DEANintheYAY
LEFT COAST
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:47 pm to
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The LSU offense will need to keep the ball long enough to rest the defense


Spencer Ware says thanks Captain Obvious

Posted by GoDucks349
Westfir
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:54 pm to
For the second year in a row ALL (43) Oregon recruits qualified academically. So that's good news for the Ducks. Also, Cliff Harris and Alonzo are practicing.

Question, does anyone know if Cliff's suspension is for the LSU game? Or can they suspend him for a different game? Just curious......
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 6:04 pm to
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ALL (43) Oregon recruits


HUH??? you guys signed 43 recruits?

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Question, does anyone know if Cliff's suspension is for the LSU game? Or can they suspend him for a different game? Just curious......



Kelly said he was suspended for the LSU game.
Posted by LSU77
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Posted on 8/9/11 at 6:10 pm to
Get a dog !
Posted by PDXAnas
Member since Apr 2011
153 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 6:13 pm to
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For the second year in a row ALL (43) Oregon recruits qualified academically.


That's two classes.

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Question, does anyone know if Cliff's suspension is for the LSU game? Or can they suspend him for a different game? Just curious...


Harris won't play. Sounds like it's to some degree up to Alonso whether or not he plays -- that is, he has to take care of some business first.
This post was edited on 8/9/11 at 6:18 pm
Posted by hemiroid
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2009
1460 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 6:20 pm to
LSU Saint
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ANY team with the QB and RB returning from an offense that averaged what they did
What did they gain against an SEC defense with a bad secondary?

Goducks349
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All of Auburns big plays on scoring drives were passes
I actually thought Auburn would have had more success if they ran more instead of Cam trying to prove he could pass for the pros.

Bellottibold
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The problem is that we score faster, and more consistently.
You did, but not against an SEC defense. Just Saying. LOL
Posted by PDXAnas
Member since Apr 2011
153 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 6:32 pm to
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You did, but not against an SEC defense. Just Saying. LOL


The SEC comprises multiple teams who field different personnel from year to year.

Fortunately, Oregon will not be playing the SEC D All-Stars, or trying to run their offense against a Nick Fairley on a very sloppy field. But unfortunately, they won't be playing Tennessee.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 6:40 pm to
they played the Aubies 22-19. no one on the team is taking them lightly.
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