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I pro left, sift right, pin-and-pull, toss lead right.

Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:07 pm
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
8449 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:07 pm
Miles frequently played power football out of I formation: sweep, lead, iso, power, and counter. It was common to see folks post here about Miles calling "toss dive" out of "Power I" formation. However, I don't think Miles ever used Power I, and you'll be hard pressed to find a toss dive.


On Saturday night, Kiffin called a play out of the I formation, but it was a play Miles never called.

I pro left, sift right, pin-and-pull, toss lead right.

(aka I pro left, load right, pin-and-pull, toss lead right)

This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 12:24 pm
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46561 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:02 am to
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it was a play Miles never called.


Never feels a bit strong, no?

Made a thread on this in game Saturday, highlight of the night

LINK
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
8449 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:04 am to
quote:

Never feels a bit strong, no?

Made a thread on this in game Saturday, highlight of the night

LINK
To the best of my knowledge, Miles never used pin and pull.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 12:07 am
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
8011 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:31 am to
Great call.
I would love to see more of this type of power football sprinkled in. We have some success running out of the shotgun, but this throws a wrinkle in there that can cause a bit of confusion on def assignments.
I would love to see play action. It's effective.
Posted by Swamp Frog x
Member since Nov 2024
1282 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:12 am to
I know this type of football is antiquated. But it is really effective in spurts and I often wonder why no one runs it anymore. To the point where an entire position FB basically doesn’t even exist anymore. How crazy is that?

I could be totally wrong but the speed in which this type of play happens seems like a huge advantage for the RB. Just take off running to hit the hole. None of that shotgun slow hand off stuff.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 8:14 am
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
8449 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:59 am to
quote:

I know this type of football is antiquated. But it is really effective in spurts and I often wonder why no one runs it anymore. To the point where an entire position FB basically doesn’t even exist anymore. How crazy is that?

I could be totally wrong but the speed in which this type of play happens seems like a huge advantage for the RB. Just take off running to hit the hole. None of that shotgun slow hand off stuff.
It's not really antiquated. Pin and pull is actually fairly new.

However, when you have an inline TE, a FB, and another TE loading at H to crunch, it's a pretty compressed formation. It's a tough formation to throw out of.

If you want to attack the A gaps, a direct snap will hit the hole faster than any handoff. If you want to attack the B gap or wider, a direct snap will hit the hole slower unless it's an angled snap.

But you don't have to toss out of the I to attack the outside fast. Kiffin has run a wide or outside zone toss out of shot gun with an offset that hits just as fast. And it is infinitely easier to pass out of.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 9:01 am
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
8449 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Great call.
I would love to see more of this type of power football sprinkled in. We have some success running out of the shotgun, but this throws a wrinkle in there that can cause a bit of confusion on def assignments.
I would love to see play action. It's effective.
It's not a practice-time killer, and it has some flexibility. Green and Grace are versatile.
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