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Posted on 11/23/09 at 10:58 pm to lilwhirly2
I was serious about the thank you note...You should write him a love letter as well. After all he sent yall a person invite to Orlando for a week of fun in the sun! 
Posted on 11/23/09 at 10:59 pm to lsursb
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Dear God....it's worse than I thought. We're now getting advice about our football program from an Ole Miss fan....and LSU fans are actually taking it seriously. this is worse than I could have ever imagined.
Yeah, I know. I just hope Alleva isn't reading this too. It could be contagious.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 11:02 pm to lilwhirly2
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There can be only one flagship school in any state. Why else would they call it the flagship? I don't disagree that A&M and UCLA are elite schools, but my point revolve around a school being the chief school of the state. Michigan finished 2009 with the 10th ranked recruiting class and 2008 with the 13th ranked class. I'd say that the recruits are still going there. Perilloux chose to play for Miles because he gravitated to the flagship school of his state. Too bad for Michigan, Notre Dame, and LSU as of late that their coaches haven't been able to develop their talent like Alabama and Texas. These are flagship schools that have taken advantage of their flagship status, recruited well, and developed talent.
UCLA is the Flagship school of the state. USC never was the flagship school. Yet the players go there instead of UCLA. Now why is that?
And Perilloux came to LSU to play for a coach. Just like he committed to Texas to play for Brown when Saban was the coach here. He didn't want to play for Saban. Yet, he wanted to play for Miles, not LSU. LSU was not the deciding factor in his decision.
Why can't you understand that the school is less of a factor than the coach? If it was the school, then Miami, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Washington, and any traditional power would still be fielding the greatestt teams in the land. Notre Dames talent is not that great. Part of it is coaching, but the main part is they can't get the best talent based on name recognition alone, and nobody wants to play for Weis. He's horrible in the home visits.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 11:10 pm to magildachunks
Actually I think UC-Berkeley is the original flagship of the state of California.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 11:16 pm to magildachunks
The debate has been about recruiting not winning. I think that we agree that a championship program needs a great coach (not Miles) like Saban or Brown. You keep naming schools that consistently rank in the top 15 in recruiting classes (Miami, UCLA, Notre Dame, and LSU) despite having bad coaches which further proves my point. These schools get talent regardless. Why can't YOU see that every school you have named have continued to disappoint despite the fact that they have had highly rated recruiting classes. For you to continue to deny that tradition is not related to recruiting is ignoring your points. The original post that sparked the debate made the point that we have had top 15 recruiting classes long before Miles ever stepped on the scene. Even Dinardo was able to recruit a top 10 class. The undeniable fact is that if we were to fire Miles today, the next coach no matter who it is, would be able to step in and recruit well because Louisiana has always been a talent rich state that can lose its top players and still send a top 10 recruiting class to LSU. This has happened over and over again. Why you keep steering the discussion to other schools that may or may not have fertile recruiting grounds like Louisiana, I don't know. No matter what school you cite the fact will always be that LSU has had great recruiting classes long before Miles and will continue to have great recruiting classes long after he's gone no matter who the coach.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 11:16 pm to magildachunks
The debate has been about recruiting not winning. I think that we agree that a championship program needs a great coach (not Miles) like Saban or Brown. You keep naming schools that consistently rank in the top 15 in recruiting classes (Miami, UCLA, Notre Dame, and LSU) despite having bad coaches which further proves my point. These schools get talent regardless. Why can't YOU see that every school you have named have continued to disappoint despite the fact that they have had highly rated recruiting classes. For you to continue to deny that tradition is not related to recruiting is ignoring your points. The original post that sparked the debate made the point that we have had top 15 recruiting classes long before Miles ever stepped on the scene. Even Dinardo was able to recruit a top 10 class. The undeniable fact is that if we were to fire Miles today, the next coach no matter who it is, would be able to step in and recruit well because Louisiana has always been a talent rich state that can lose its top players and still send a top 10 recruiting class to LSU. This has happened over and over again. Why you keep steering the discussion to other schools that may or may not have fertile recruiting grounds like Louisiana, I don't know. No matter what school you cite the fact will always be that LSU has had great recruiting classes long before Miles and will continue to have great recruiting classes long after he's gone no matter who the coach.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 11:19 pm to lsursb
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Actually I think UC-Berkeley is the original flagship of the state of California.
You are correct.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 11:38 pm to magildachunks
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Already discussed this in my first post: Florida did not recruit itself for it's entire history, and cannot do so now.
Your posts about Florida's recruiting are full of fail. Along with Texas and California, Florida has more talent to draw from in-state than just about any school out there. FYI -- it does recruit itself in-state and that's plenty good enough to keep them well-stocked. Florida was irrelevant for years, but guess what, around 1970 the SEC integrated. Go back and do a little research, inform yourself, and look at when the difference in Florida football occurred. If you do then you'll see Florida improved dramatically in the '70s, and was very much a player in the SEC title hunt throughout the '80s before Steve Spurrier. Talent has not been an issue for Florida but coaching has. Same is true for LSU with Louisiana's per capita talent level, not to mention its proximity to Texas and Florida which helps LSU bring in top recruits from those states, too.
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