lilwhirly2

Best thread of all time.

Heck no the passing game wasn't better in 08. Look at the stats that you posted. Our passing sucked in 08 not to mention we had record breaking INT's for TD's. Is there any stat that suggests our passing was better in 08?

Glad your stuck. No matter how you say it, you effed up. You obviously checked off every single bowl game in your season ticket holder packet. You were hoping to either go to the championship game or a game within reasonable driving distance or sell the tickets to the games that you weren't willing to attend. Either way, everyone that has posted on this thread is correct. You are trying to make money off your Capital One tickets or you'd be going.

The debate has been about recruiting not winning. I think that we agree that a championship program needs a great coach (not Miles) like Saban or Brown. You keep naming schools that consistently rank in the top 15 in recruiting classes (Miami, UCLA, Notre Dame, and LSU) despite having bad coaches which further proves my point. These schools get talent regardless. Why can't YOU see that every school you have named have continued to disappoint despite the fact that they have had highly rated recruiting classes. For you to continue to deny that tradition is not related to recruiting is ignoring your points. The original post that sparked the debate made the point that we have had top 15 recruiting classes long before Miles ever stepped on the scene. Even Dinardo was able to recruit a top 10 class. The undeniable fact is that if we were to fire Miles today, the next coach no matter who it is, would be able to step in and recruit well because Louisiana has always been a talent rich state that can lose its top players and still send a top 10 recruiting class to LSU. This has happened over and over again. Why you keep steering the discussion to other schools that may or may not have fertile recruiting grounds like Louisiana, I don't know. No matter what school you cite the fact will always be that LSU has had great recruiting classes long before Miles and will continue to have great recruiting classes long after he's gone no matter who the coach.

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Dear God....it's worse than I thought. We're now getting advice about our football program from an Ole Miss fan....and LSU fans are actually taking it seriously. this is worse than I could have ever imagined.

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Yeah, I know. I just hope Alleva isn't reading this too. It could be contagious.

There can be only one flagship school in any state. Why else would they call it the flagship? I don't disagree that A&M and UCLA are elite schools, but my point revolve around a school being the chief school of the state. Michigan finished 2009 with the 10th ranked recruiting class and 2008 with the 13th ranked class. I'd say that the recruits are still going there. Perilloux chose to play for Miles because he gravitated to the flagship school of his state. Too bad for Michigan, Notre Dame, and LSU as of late that their coaches haven't been able to develop their talent like Alabama and Texas. These are flagship schools that have taken advantage of their flagship status, recruited well, and developed talent.

You may have a point with the Florida comment because they compete with other top instate schools, however the Auburn point is wrong. I'm not suggesting that because fans believe it makes it so. I'm suggesting that Flagship schools bring in recruits and its up to the coach to develop the talent. You keep bring up teams that have had losing seasons, but you neglect to mention that those teams DID have talent. Mike Shula had Bama ranked preseason #3. Why? Because he had talent. Talent gravitates towards schools like Bama because of who they are. Just like Notre Dame has been able to bring in top 5 classes the past 5 years. This can't be denied. Weiss like Miles can't develop it. Don't drag a no talent state like Nebraska into the discussion.

I don't deny that some of our great recruits went out of state, but to discount the entire decade would be wrong. We had some great classes in the 90's despite having terrible coaches (again with the exception of the great one). Throw Paterno and Bowden completely out of the discussion (I mean, really?). I don't believe Tuberville has ever coached at a Flagship school that can claim it recruited itself, so lets throw him out too. What do we have left? A bunch of coaches at schools that do actually recruit themselves (Brown, Meyer, Saban, and Carroll). What these guys have been able to do is develop the talent that they were able to recruit in their talent rich states. Louisiana is a talent rich state that Miles has failed to develop.

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What kind of frick up would it take to want the guy fired? People on the fox news channel are making fun of the guy

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Exactly. When is enough going to be enough?

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But Miles needs to stay. He is the program. And he brings in the recruits.

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How could you eff up your entire post with this. You almost had everybody.