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re: I hope Mett is half as good as Jamarcus.....Check this video out
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:19 pm to Budroar
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:19 pm to Budroar
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....the mad hatter shite catches up at some point and it did in the last and most important game......he did the same in 2006 instead of playing flynn he played russell
Yeah, LSU might have had a #1 pick QB if not for Les and his "shite" in 06.
This stuff just gets too funny sometimes.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:29 pm to Budroar
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If miles would have played his star qb....(2011) who sat on the bench the whole year....the mad hatter shite catches up at some point and it did in the last and most important game......he did the same in 2006 instead of playing flynn he played russell we might of had back to back champs .....Mett as good as russell...... russell's not even close!!!!!
Well Atleast I know I can ignore what you say about football now. JR's 06 season IS ONLY THE BEST SEASON EVER AS A LSU QB.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:32 pm to Jason9782003
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JR didn't have to have much of a mental game in college. He was loaded with NFL WR's at LSU - Doucet, Bowe, Davis, Lafell.
You're talking out of your arse. Jumbo Fosher has said JR was the on of the best qb, IN THE FILM ROOM, he has ever been around. Go ahead keep spouting bs
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:38 pm to swsectgr
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(Anyone who says this guy wasn't the most talented LSU QB ever is full of shite.)
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:38 pm to glaucon
Anyone who thinks Flynn was a better COLLEGE QB, either doesn't understand football or has a biased agenda.
ONCE AGAIN I HAVE TO POST THIS STAT.
JORDAN JEFFERSON HAD A HIGHER QB RATING IN 09 , THAN FLYNN DID IN 07.
This isn't even close. JR's stats shite on Flynn's. Period.
Somehow , the rantards on this site have started a myth that Flynn was a great qb at LSU and he just wasn't. Flynn. Was avg at best.
ONCE AGAIN I HAVE TO POST THIS STAT.
JORDAN JEFFERSON HAD A HIGHER QB RATING IN 09 , THAN FLYNN DID IN 07.
This isn't even close. JR's stats shite on Flynn's. Period.
Somehow , the rantards on this site have started a myth that Flynn was a great qb at LSU and he just wasn't. Flynn. Was avg at best.
This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:42 pm to Hurricane Mike
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Talent doesn't override stupid
Yeah , Mauck's great TD/int ratio of 4 TDs and 12 ints against ranked teams ,in 03, shows he was stupid and Flynn's int to end the arky game shows he was stupid.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:42 pm to TBoy
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That was not his best game.
as far as gutty wins it was. He got knocked out of the game with a concussion and came back in to win it. Flynn actually played in that game
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:44 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Rick, calm down.
oops, misread. still, calm down.
oops, misread. still, calm down.
This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:44 pm to Moustache
I would like to take veryone back to 2005. To our 'home' game after the hurricane vs ASU.
Think about everything our school and state was going through. Then, on 4th down and 10, with 1:23 left on the clock... well; just watch the shite already!
LINK
One of my favorite passes in LSU history.
Think about everything our school and state was going through. Then, on 4th down and 10, with 1:23 left on the clock... well; just watch the shite already!
LINK
One of my favorite passes in LSU history.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:45 pm to Hurricane Mike
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Talent doesn't override stupid
he threw interceptions in 4 games that year.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:48 pm to ATLTiger
I am calm. Why would I be hyped? Caps aren't for yelling. It too emphasize words.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:49 pm to TexasTiger1185
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One of my favorite passes in LSU history.
I could watch JaMarcus throw the ball all day. and we got the second coming on the way in a few weeks!
Posted on 8/15/12 at 4:58 pm to ATLTiger
I love that play, but you know Early didn't catch that ball until he was out of bounds.how on earth they let that play stand was beyond me.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 5:05 pm to ATLTiger
I don't know what people were talking about in the 07 Arky game, but we literally let them stick around all day. Offense couldn't do shite in the first half and defense couldn't do shite in the second. That was really a whole team fail to me.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 5:39 pm to Duckie
no one has ever disputed Russell's god given ability to throw a football, but as to everything else, here are some draft preview analysis of Russell going into the 2007 draft.
from scout.com
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However, hidden behind Russell's immense physical talent are a couple of major red flags. For starters, as recently as last summer's training camp, Russell was engaged in a fierce quarterback battle with Matt Flynn and Ryan Perriloux. There were rumors that Russell was gone to the NFL at the end of the season no matter how the year went, simply, because he was unsure that he'd be able to hold onto the starting job again. Russell emerged from the controversy to have a great season, but it was the first of his career in which he was statistically the best passer on his team. While this history doesn't doom Russell (Tom Brady had similar issues), I would still be wary of spending the number one overall pick and the 25 million dollar signing bonus that comes with it on a guy who wasn't even the clear-cut starter his final year in college. Less than six months ago, very few experts considered Russell a first-round pick. FO's own Michael David Smith, for example, wrote "I don't see Russell as a first-round pick at all" in the discussion thread for Seventh Day Adventure on September 17th. Late risers usually fail to live up to the hype.
An even bigger issue with Russell is that he is an atrocious decision maker. He consistently throws the ball into double and triple coverage. Like Favre he often gets away with it by making spectacular throws. Still, field vision is the single most important quality for a quarterback. You can get away with being average in this regard if you have superior arm strength and accuracy, but Russell still has a ways to go before he can be considered average at seeing the field.
Russell also has the tendency to simply throw the ball up for grabs when he gets confused. If you watched the Sugar Bowl you saw this happen on an early in the fourth quarter interception. Russell clearly blew his underneath reads, panicked, and just lofted the ball up. It went pretty much unnoticed because he played an otherwise stellar game, but it is a recurring problem. These passes didn't always end up picks in college because Dwayne Bowe, Craig Davis and Early Doucet (all future first day picks) did a nice job of winning jump balls. That won't fly at the next level.
Another concern is that Russell ran a fairly simple offense at LSU. The Tigers eschewed complexity partly to avoid confusing Russell, and partly because complexity was not necessary for an offense as talented as LSU's. Russell can make very difficult throws when he knows where to go with the ball, so the LSU coaching staff didn't have to get fancy. This will still be true to a degree in the NFL. In fact Drew Bledsoe did pretty well in his first few years in the league in a Patriots offense using similar principles. Unfortunately coaches often seem reluctant to play to their quarterback's strengths (see Vick, Michael) and try to force unique players into the cookie-cutter mold. Russell will struggle with an NFL-style offense at first, but if he's coached well (like Vince Young was last season) then this shouldn't be a prohibitive factor in his development.
All of these issues are related. Because of Russell's knack for making boneheaded plays at the worst possible times, he had Matt Flynn and Ryan Perrilloux breathing down his neck his whole college career. Any team that drafts him must be prepared to tolerate some very questionable decisions interspersed with Russell's trademark spectacular throws. He is also known to get down on himself and get rattled when things are not going well. All in all he has a number of characteristics that you don't like to see in a young quarterback.
Russell's understanding of the game is questionable at best. He constantly infuriated LSU fans with his inability to manage situations properly. Pretty much everything that Russell is can be summed up by describing the final drive from this year's LSU-Auburn game.
from scout.com
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He still needs work on his mechanics and he still has to prove he can be a good decision maker under pressure, but in a few years, he could be special if he wants to work for it.
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Must improve his pass placement and throwing fundamentals, as targets are constantly adjusting to make the reception. More often than not he is high of the mark.
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The biggest problem with Russell is that it seems at times as though he leaves his head at home and looks totally lost in some games. He tries to rely on his arm too much and will force a lot of balls into spots he shouldn't, which will probably create problems at the NFL level.
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There are questions about Russell's drive and dedication to the game. Is he going to work hard or is will he be playing for the money? Russell also is raw as far as passing; many times Russell will take his drop and then look for open receivers, not trusting them in timing routes. He will need to develop the trust to drop back and throw to where the receiver is supposed to be in their route. Russell is a top tier quarterback out of college, but it might be interesting to see if it develops in the NFL. Russell might have been a product of the system in LSU, so a good system in the NFL might benefit him.
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Russell has gotten better each year, but he still needs to show a little more patience and discipline throwing the football. At times he’ll still get reckless thinking his arm strength can get him out of jams
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Tends to get a bit impatient in the pocket and showed too much confidence in his arm strength, firing the ball right into coverage … Will hold the ball too long waiting for his targets to get open, resulting in a sack or costly fumble … Can make all the throws, but needs to take a little of his zip off his shorter area tosses … Cool under pressure, but will get impatient at times and force the ball in tight areas
Posted on 8/15/12 at 5:42 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Yeah , Mauck's great TD/int ratio of 4 TDs and 12 ints against ranked teams ,in 03, shows he was stupid and Flynn's int to end the arky game shows he was stupid.
see this is the thing, i don't think flynn or mauck were better qbs than russell in college. i do, however, believe if they had his talent they would be all-league players in the nfl right now
Posted on 8/15/12 at 5:56 pm to lsufball19
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see this is the thing, i don't think flynn or mauck were better qbs than russell in college. i do, however, believe if they had his talent they would be all-league players in the nfl right now
I agree somewhat. I think of JR hadn't lost all of his inner circle , his rookie year( 11 people close to him died), he would still be in the league.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 6:16 pm to Rickdaddy4188
What I like most about that video was on the ticker at the bottom:
Mississippi State 24 Alabama 16 Final
Mississippi State 24 Alabama 16 Final
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