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re: I could only imagine the rant had lsu hired a d.c. from a 5-7

Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:20 pm to
Too bad the Rant wasn't around when we hired a coach that just lost his final game 65-0 to complete a 5-6 season.
Posted by rbdallas
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:21 pm to
is he really ????
he is passionate..but good???

Texas team have been allowing over 30 points per game.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:21 pm to
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Did you or 97% of people have internet in late 1994?


I don't even know if online communication had evolved into the internet in 1994. Most of it was still independent BBS's where you had to dial in directly via a modem.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:23 pm to
I remember when we hired a head coach that had a 5-6 record as well as some worse records than that.
Posted by dos crystal
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:25 pm to
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I remember when we hired a head coach that had a 5-6 record as well as some worse records than that.


i can remember that too. i don't recall lsu coming off of 2 n.c.'s in six years, though. i don't think lsu had a winning season in six years.

and, how did that work out for lsu?
This post was edited on 12/13/10 at 1:28 pm
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:32 pm to
To be fair, Texas is one year removed from playing in the N.C. and should have been in the year before over Oklahoma, whom they had beaten.

I just saw the thread about how the A&M series was discontinued and it pissed me off again at what an inept AD we had in Joe Dean.
Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:32 pm to
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he is passionate..but good???


Football coaches who work with him and have hired him think so. Your boy Greg Hudson wishes he had WM's resume and you seem to think he's the next Jerry Glanville.

While Texas may not have been good this year on defense, they only allowed 30 or more points 4 times.
This post was edited on 12/13/10 at 1:36 pm
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:35 pm to
Wasn't this the same hire that many on the Rant were clamoring that LSU make as little as a month ago....?

Posted by dos crystal
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:48 pm to
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To be fair, Texas is one year removed from playing in the N.C. and should have been in the year before over Oklahoma, whom they had beaten.


agree, but to be fair. this was his third year. did he improve or fall off?

I bring this up because he was under saban for so long. he finally seperated himself, went to Au for a year then texas for three. this is his only stop that you can really see what he did for a semi extended time.

he may be a great coach. i don't know. i'm just amazed by the hire. I think about our program, our fan base. they thought we could get gruden. We aren't as highly thought of as florida. They wind up with a d.c. from a 5-7 team? Gosh, if that happened here, people would go crazy.
Posted by rbdallas
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:48 pm to
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Football coaches who work with him and have hired him think so. Your boy Greg Hudson wishes he had WM's resume and you seem to think he's the next Jerry Glanville. While Texas may not have been good this year on defense, they only allowed 30 or more points 4 times.


only time will tell in all honesty..but
Kansas State - 39
UCLA - 34
Iowa State - 28
these are not power schools....

Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:51 pm to
Usually football people judge coaches based on a wide variety of things, including their entire resume, not just one season. What happened this season was pretty much an aberration for a Muschamp defense.
Posted by aggiegirl2005
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:55 pm to
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only time will tell in all honesty..but
Kansas State - 39
UCLA - 34
Iowa State - 28
these are not power schools....

A lot of it was the offense making it so much harder on the defense. Gilbert had 10 TD passes and 17 interceptions. They had a t/o margin of -12 for the year (good for 116th in the country).

In the KState game alone, 17 of the points came off interceptions.

Stats only tell part of the story. In total yards, Texas D was #7 this year.
This post was edited on 12/13/10 at 1:57 pm
Posted by rbdallas
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:55 pm to
He has potential as a HC..
POTENTIAL..that which has not yet been accomplished.

..only time will tell.
some make better Coordinators than HC, others do the opposite.

I always thought Jimbo Fisher to be a mediocre OC, but I always thought he would make a better HC than OC

in both cases.. time will tell.
Posted by KappaSwig
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
502 posts
Posted on 12/13/10 at 2:03 pm to
I wish some of you "but he has no HC experience" people would explain to me the significant difference being a HC at a middling school like Utah or Boise or Bowling Green (or anywhere outside the SEC) makes over being a top DC at 3 separate big time programs (2 in the SEC), 2 of which went to the Nat. Championship? He recruits well, is an SEC guy with significant ties to the Southeast, and is a solid coach. Yes, he probably won't replicate the height of Meyer's success in the same time, largely because he won't have a guy named Tim Tebow on the team. But I'd be shocked if he's as big a flop as some of you are saying. Look at Chizik - one player later and the guy has gone from despised by his own fanbase to the National Championship game. My money is on him succeeding. They already have talent. His staff will be the most important thing.
This post was edited on 12/13/10 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 2:04 pm to
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He has potential as a HC..
POTENTIAL..that which has not yet been accomplished.


I'm aware of this. You don't need to tell me anything. I don't put much stock into what LSU fans on here think anyway, especially after watching LSU fans on here crow from all of 2007 and most of 2008 about Nick Saban was never going to come close to having similiar success at Bama that he did at LSU.

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always thought Jimbo Fisher to be a mediocre OC, but I always thought he would make a better HC than OC


I really don't understand why you would think that but I do wonder about your evaluations/analysis because you believe in Greg Hudson deeply it appears yet you seem to have questions about a coach like Muschamp, who is highly thought of by the people who have hired him.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 2:11 pm to
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agree, but to be fair. this was his third year. did he improve or fall off?


A big part of the issue this year for Texas was the atrociousness of their offense.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4745 posts
Posted on 12/13/10 at 2:16 pm to
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A big part of the issue this year for Texas was the atrociousness of their offense


same for lsu. was it lsu's d was good enough to help them win 10 games? why did texas faulter so bad?
Posted by Swat5
Houston
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 2:20 pm to
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A big part of the issue this year for Texas was the atrociousness of their offense


What was the Texas offense ranked? Cause our offense wasnt gonna win a beauty contest in Mississippi.... ...and we went 10-2 with a tougher schedule...
Posted by Camp Randall
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 2:21 pm to
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That's the way I feel about the hire too. As a LSU fan, I am very "comfortable" with this hire.


Yep it's a gamble that might turn out ok for them. Problem is Florida shouldn't have to gamble.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 12/13/10 at 2:22 pm to
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Florida is a job where they could probably hire anyone.


I highly doubt they doubt that.
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