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re: I can’t understand why Hilliard is pitching Saturday
Posted on 6/12/21 at 5:30 am to Jack Crevalle
Posted on 6/12/21 at 5:30 am to Jack Crevalle
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Don't sweat it. You will see Labas.
It’s possible we won’t if the others do well enough
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 6:06 am to LSUstephen17
Marceaux pitched twice last weekend, 100 pitches the first outing and 30 something Monday. He needs the extra days rest. Think, Hilliard has the best W/L record. We don’t have 3 aces sooo. We have to gamble a little.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 6:17 am to LSUstephen17
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So if we lose Saturday I’m coming back to this thread. We win and it’s a great move
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:58 am to Ampipe96
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Maybe he needs the extra rest?
This is true
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Besides sundays fame is the most important of the season.
This is not true.
If we win Saturday, lose Sunday and win Monday how does that make Sunday’s game most important?
Plus you are comparing the wrong guys. Marceaux is our best pitcher. He MUST pitch one of the first two games, because you don’t want to go home without your Ace throwing. It’s really about Labas and Hilliard. Ordinarily, you’d want Labas in those first two games, but he’s not available for game one, and since Marceaux isn’t either, you pitch Hilliard.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 8:02 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:00 am to LSUstephen17
No reply warranted as you don't understand the game...It's ok grasshopper!
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:06 am to Wadey
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Pitch Colemen
He’s not completely available for game one. He threw 95 pitches, and he’s had five days rest. That’s borderline for a kid that age who hasn’t been stretched for that load. He could be used in game one, but he might not be able to go 100 pitches.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:08 am to Lester Earl
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You just can’t risk not having Labas start a game in this super regional. Kinda shocked that’s the route they want to take
Lester, you have no choice but to risk it. If you start Labas in game one you risk not having the real Labas. Five days rest after 125 pitches is problematic. You can’t start him in game two because that’s Marceaux’. Therefore, it is game three.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:08 am to LSUstephen17
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LSUstephen17
Geaux sit down and hold Coach Paul’s beer.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:13 am to OhioTiger
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Since 99, the winner of game #1 in the super regionals goes on to win the series 80% of the time.
You can say almost the same thing with coin flips. The winner of the first flip wins a best two of three 75% of the time. That’s 100 - 5 * 5 = 75. So the fact that the better team probably won game one only accounts for another 5%.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:37 am to Penrod
I agree. Hopefully, we can get 6-7 strong innings from Hilliard and then Coleman or Edwards can close them out. However, we really need to score runs in the first game of the series!!
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:07 am to Lester Earl
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LSU is in this position because of how they played last weekend, not last month.
It’s baseball you never let one weekend be the be all end all for the next. You need to use as much data as possible. Bianco and Coleman have been playing well for LSU for a month now. It wasn’t just last weekend.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:43 am to Ampipe96
What if Hilliard cant get past 4 innings and we use up our bullpen?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:59 am to LSUstephen17
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This decision doesn’t make sense let’s win game 1.
We have a Freshman Lefty up to 94 with two other plus pitches that had about 3 starts this year and shut down one of the best PAC offenses. Does this help you understand more?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:13 am to jdmac99
What if LSU hits 7 homers and routes Tennessee in game 1 using up their arms?
I think more important than LSU's pitching is the hitting with RISP! When LSU was struggling, they would strand base runners constantly without clutch hits (and with terrible base running). They aren't the most clutch hitting team now, but they've improved! If the big 3 bats can get up with men on from the bottom of the lineup, LSU will be hard to beat, but if the bottom can't get a few baserunners, LSU will struggle to put up big numbers!
If Hilliard struggles early and gets yanked, you go with Edwards and extend him if pitching well! If both struggle, a tough scenario plays out with the bullpen, but you need to trust your dudes to come through on Sunday (and Monday if needed).
If Hilliard makes it through 18 outs, Coleman can close out the final 2-3 innings with maybe another arm for 3 outs depending on scenario/score to keep Coleman fresh for another relief appearance if needed.
I trust PM's decisions at this point because he's tried so many different things this year that made me question him, but I think it's given him a feel for what worked (or didn't work) throughout the season. Maybe there was a reason behind a lot of his tinkering this year which was to put people in the spotlight in different scenarios and see the response/outcome.
I think more important than LSU's pitching is the hitting with RISP! When LSU was struggling, they would strand base runners constantly without clutch hits (and with terrible base running). They aren't the most clutch hitting team now, but they've improved! If the big 3 bats can get up with men on from the bottom of the lineup, LSU will be hard to beat, but if the bottom can't get a few baserunners, LSU will struggle to put up big numbers!
If Hilliard struggles early and gets yanked, you go with Edwards and extend him if pitching well! If both struggle, a tough scenario plays out with the bullpen, but you need to trust your dudes to come through on Sunday (and Monday if needed).
If Hilliard makes it through 18 outs, Coleman can close out the final 2-3 innings with maybe another arm for 3 outs depending on scenario/score to keep Coleman fresh for another relief appearance if needed.
I trust PM's decisions at this point because he's tried so many different things this year that made me question him, but I think it's given him a feel for what worked (or didn't work) throughout the season. Maybe there was a reason behind a lot of his tinkering this year which was to put people in the spotlight in different scenarios and see the response/outcome.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:15 am to Penrod
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Lester, you have no choice but to risk it. If you start Labas in game one you risk not having the real Labas. Five days rest after 125 pitches is problematic. You can’t start him in game two because that’s Marceaux’. Therefore, it is game three.
Labas has pitched once in the last 23 days. If he’s not rested now he never will be
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:21 am to Ampipe96
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Besides sundays fame is the most important of the season. Your either playing for you life or your playing to sweep
This. And Hilliard has been pitching well as of late.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:21 am to geauxtigers33
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It’s baseball you never let one weekend be the be all end all for the next. You need to use as much data as possible.
Then you’ll remember Labas starting the SEC slate with 5 quality starts out of 6 games, including an absolute gem against this Tennessee team.
Of those 5 QS, four of those teams are playing in a super regional
vs Tenn: 7ip 4h 2er 2bb 3so
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 10:22 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:29 am to LSUstephen17
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I just think we can beat this kid Friday with Marceaux on the hill
What if it is impossible to put Marceaux on the hill Saturday. THAT’s what you are missing, because clearly, if we COULD put Marceaux on the mound Saturday we would. The point is that the coaches think there is a significant chance that if we put the guy NAMED Marceaux on the mound Saturday we will get something less than we’re accustomed to. THAT’s why they are giving him another day of rest.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:36 am to gumbeaux
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I’m not saying that Hilliard should pitch Game 1 or Game 2. But ESPN keeps showing the graphic that 80% of the teams that win Game 1 goes to the CWS.
Yeah, and I bet that 80% of the teams that win game 2 win the series. Also, 100% of the teams that win game 3. Understand that if you lose EITHER of the first two games you have to win BOTH of the others. If each game is 50/50 that means you have a 75% chance of winning the series if you are spotted one game.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:41 am to Imforlsu644
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I’d start Labas game 1 and save Hilliard for game 3. The main thing is Marceaux not pitching until game 2 or 3. If you win game 1, do you pitch Marceaux in game 3?
You need all of your starters. Going Hilliard/Marceaux/Labas gives you all three at their best. ANY other rotation weakens our starters.
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