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re: I believe Brandon Harris will be the most improved player next year for LSU

Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:56 pm to
Posted by TigerEast
Alabama
Member since Dec 2003
1451 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:56 pm to
QUOTEI believe Brandon Harris will be the most improved player next year for LSU. He has the skill set and the poise to get it done, and hopefully he has the work ethic.QUOTE

I agree and hope Brandon becomes the leader we need. An effective QB would change our team dynamics drastically for the good, maybe great.
Posted by jjharris99
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2013
18 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:19 pm to
The Offense will improve we just have two young inexperienced QBs at the helm. The future is bright.
Posted by unbanmepls
FQ
Member since Dec 2014
734 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:26 pm to
We all better hope he is.
Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:47 pm to
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 11:49 pm
Posted by Jdixon
Member since Aug 2014
2936 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:50 pm to
Not gona take too much to be a drastic improvement over this years QB play.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18146 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:50 am to
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Manziel, Winston, Murray, and Barrett were redshirted. I will give you credit, though. A true freshman can do just fine in conferences like the B1G and ACC.


Wow, you guys are going to hang with your "redshirt" argument until the cows come home.

My point is that freshman QBs WITH NO PLAYING EXPERIENCE can be extremely productive.

But you guys keep on saying that this productivity is only because they're "redshirt" freshman rather than true freshman. Yea, that's definitely the reason, not coaching or offensive scheme.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70922 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:55 am to
Hmm
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22327 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 7:58 am to
quote:

I believe Brandon Harris will be the most improved player next year for LSU
Unfortunately, you have to make your way onto the field for that to happen.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:35 am to
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But you guys keep on saying that this productivity is only because they're "redshirt" freshman rather than true freshman. Yea, that's definitely the reason, not coaching or offensive scheme.


Are you saying that a full YEAR sitting behind someone else and learning would not be incredibly beneficial?

Why arent there more true freshman 'phenom's'? There's a BIG difference between the two.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18146 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:56 am to
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Are you saying that a full YEAR sitting behind someone else and learning would not be incredibly beneficial?


Of course a year sitting learning can be helpful.

But my overall point is that it's NOT A REQUIREMENT that QBs have actual prior playing experience to be incredibly productive. Freshman, redshirt freshman, even older guys who've never taken significant snaps at QB (ex: Blake Sims, Cardale Jones) can be incredibly productive, given the right mix of talent and (gasp) coaching and scheme.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:54 am to
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He has the skill set and the poise to get it done, and hopefully he has the work ethic.


It would really take a lot of skill and effort to get any worse.
Posted by Tiger_T57
Madison, Ms
Member since Oct 2014
407 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:00 am to
duhh.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
4563 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:19 am to
He NEEDS to be. Hate to hang that 'monkey' on his back, but his success will drive the team's success. LF can get 2000 yds, AKA Gordon/WISC, but that does not win every game. Balance, and a qb who can throw downfield when we need him to will be essential to our TEAM success.

I have seen some great posts that summarize Jennings to date - 13 games started, 15 games played in...NO tangible improvement. Nuff said...Harris, seize this opportunity young man and make your mark!

PS Coaches, you need to give Harris the opportunity.
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3463 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:21 am to
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I believe Brandon Harris will be the most improved player next year for LSU

quote:

He has the skill set and the poise to get it done, and hopefully he has the work ethic.

All of that is moot if he never sees the field. How do you assess a player's improvement if he is standing on the sidelines and not playing?
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:29 am to
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But my overall point is that it's NOT A REQUIREMENT that QBs have actual prior playing experience to be incredibly productive


Not one person has argued against this. Can Newton was extremely productive. But when you attempt to apply this argument to Brandon Harris, or any TRUE freshman, you fall short.

Talent and Coaching are inversely proportional. The more you have of one, the less you need of the other. This is why extremely talented players like Manziel and Winston can win a Heisman as redshirt freshmen, and extremely limited QBs like Jarrett Lee and Blake Sims can win the SEC as redshirt seniors.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 11:31 am
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:30 am to
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All of that is moot if he never sees the field. How do you assess a player's improvement if he is standing on the sidelines and not playing?


CFB games last for 1 hour per week. CFB practices last for 20.
Posted by TigerStripes44
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2015
108 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:59 am to
Too bad Harris won't see the field until his senior year.
Posted by 11thACR
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Mar 2012
1652 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:21 pm to
LSU certainly needs that to be the case !!!
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