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How would playing UT in the Texas bowl have helped us in recruiting?

Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted by el duderino III
People's Republic of Austin
Member since Jul 2011
2382 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:04 pm
Imo it really doesn't. There isn't a single recruit in texas who thinks that UT is a better team than us, has been recently, or will be soon, so what do we have to gain? They're decision is based on a lot more than who they think would win head to head. Plus I think the possibility, even if small, of losing to ut far outweighs the benefits. Winning convincingly would just be maintaining the status quo.

Stomping ND would probably help us recruit nationally more than beating UT would help us recruit in texas. And losing would hurt us a hell of a lot less.

On top of that, texas has a considerably better defense than ND. The game would be low scoring and feature two run first offenses with "mobile" yet inept qb's and would probably be about as exciting to high school recruits as a rerun of the 9-6 bama game.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:07 pm to
Playing anywhere doesn't help with recruiting anymore. Games are all nationally televised now, it's not 1990 anymore.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:08 pm to
It wouldn't. LSU already has a presence in Texas. I think the recruiting angle is way over blown come bowl time.

I guess if we played in Rose Bowl it would help our California recruiting.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33448 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:08 pm to
I am glad this has its own thread. I have mentioned this in other threads. This whole hysteria over going to a bowl in Texas helping recruiting is ridiculous and I have yet to have a single person give a good reason as to why it is such a big deal. It is a Rantard creation that people just recite because they have nothing of value to say.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7945 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:14 pm to
People will argue it because Houston/East Texas is in our recruiting footprint and that it's a good last showing for recruits considering schools like A&M or Big XII schools. The game is also primetime.

The reality is that LSU is a brand name and East Texas is still an LSU stronghold. While the Music City Bowl is not a primetime game, most recruits will still be watching it. It's two high profile schools. This also gives us an opportunity to look at players in that region and also quick flights to the Carolinas for recruiting.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:14 pm to
I never wanted LSU to play a 6-6 Texas team. Even at 7-5 Notre Dame is still Notre Dame and LSU will derive more from this matchup, both in how ESPN covers it, and in national fan attention.

If LSU couldn't have lucked into playing a higher ranked team, which would have been of optimal benefit to the program, Notre Dame is as good as we could have hoped for.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:15 pm to
It wouldnt
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:16 pm to
I agree. By this logic, LSU needs to play a bowl game in Monroe to reclaim ownership of NE Louisiana.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
6794 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:21 pm to


Texas is the second most populated state with largest high school football talent pool. The more exposure the better. I can't believe this is actually being argued. Talk to anyone in marketing about product exposure. Why in the world do beer companies, insurance companies, automobile makers, etc. pour billions into advertising when everyone already knows they exist? Saturate, saturate, saturate and win.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:24 pm to
You're an idiot
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26622 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

On top of that, texas has a considerably better defense than ND. The game would be low scoring and feature two run first offenses with "mobile" yet inept qb's and would probably be about as exciting to high school recruits as a rerun of the 9-6 bama game.


This is the exact reason why I didn't want us playing Texas. That would be a boring arse game. At least with ND, you get contrasting styles. Bowl games outside of the top few are just consolation games for teams who finished with 6 FBS wins.

Who wants to see a bland exhibition game?
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
6794 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:32 pm to
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You're an idiot


No, not hardly. I can't say the same for you, who does nothing but fill these boards with ad hominems. You have an argument to make, make it; but don't reduce yourself to making personal attacks when you have nothing else to add. That is the true measure of idiocy.

Regardless, I don't need the agreement of you or any of the other rantards to make a sound point. And every coach I know agrees LSU needs every edge it can get right now to win some recruiting battles in the state.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:34 pm to
Please tell me how LSU playing in the Texas bowl against a 6-6 team gains them any exposure they are missing out on? Its just another reason for you to cry about something.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33448 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:36 pm to
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This also gives us an opportunity to look at players in that region and also quick flights to the Carolinas for recruiting.


Huh?

So you think that while the team is in Nashville preparing for the bowl game, the coaches will be "looking at players in that region" and catching "quick flights to the Carolinas" for some more recruiting?


Where in the hell do you people dream this stuff up?
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80163 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Texas is the second most populated state with largest high school football talent pool. The more exposure the better.


The only bowl in Texas this year the recruits will be watching is the NC game
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
44077 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:37 pm to
I didn't neccesarily agree with this theory, until I visited family in Dallas and talked with a younger nephew.

He told me A LOT of kids at his school are LSU fans. My theory is, from us playing over there so much, kids get to go to these games and watch lsu win, and some then grow up lsu fans.
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:38 pm to
Oh no doubt lots of LSU fans in Texas but not playing in the Texas bowl wont make them start not liking LSU. That is absurd.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33448 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

And every coach I know agrees LSU needs every edge it can get right now to win some recruiting battles in the state.


So the mere presence of LSU in a bowl game within the state of Texas somehow magically gives LSU that edge.

I am glad I don't live in the world of fantasy and imagination that some of you inhabit.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:39 pm to
I feel like we are are sharing a brain on this topic
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33448 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

I feel like we are are sharing a brain on this topic


I feel the same amount of wonder that you do as to how in the world this could affect recruiting.

When a kid commits to Arkansas and says "Man, I was on the fence, but seeing those guys in the Texas Bowl swayed me", then I will formally come here and apologize for being so dumb.
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