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re: How stupid would Alleva look had the deal gone through like so many still want?
Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:55 am to ApexTiger
Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:55 am to ApexTiger
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It's time to start helping Les win versus helping him fail

So what you're saying is, he didn't have some of the highest paid assistant coaches in the game? He didn't have maybe the single greatest recruiting staff of all time?
It's not often I stumble upon a post that is just so wrong.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:57 am to monsterballads
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quote: How was OSU's record for the 12 years before Miles got there??
are you counting when he was an OC there in the 90's?
You mean when they made their only bowl appearance in that 12 year period?
Of course.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:58 am to tom
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How stupid are we going to look when we lose 3 games next season because the offense is still crippled
How stupid will you look next year if we don't?
Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:58 am to Tiger Voodoo
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How was OSU's record for the 12 years before Miles got there??
I'll hang up and listen while you figure out how to search on Google
No shite, right? Then he should Google Saban at MSU and get back to us when he gets a clue.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:02 am to Jake88
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It's time to start helping Les win versus helping him fail
What does this mean? LSU pays assistants more than elsewhere. It seems Les has been the one failing.
I am referencing the contract deal with Chavis ultimately ticking him off enough to run to A$M, then not being able to hire Aranda last year and settling for Steele...
With that said, you make a good point though, we do pay assistants well...
But the devil is in the details...
I would really like to fully know what happened on the Jimbo deal..
I am convinced it was going down...
something changed that Saturday...
whether it was Jimbo, Sexton, Alleva, or Alexander we may never know
the fact that DALSU never posts tells me it was Jimbo or Alexander, both "unexpected" developments to the "done deal"
Hard to predict a last minute change of heart
My buddy is friends with Bruce Hemphill who played at LSU, so I would think his tidbit has some truth to it.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:02 am to ApexTiger
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It's time to start helping Les win versus helping him fail
This
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:02 am to jrodLSUke
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What would have truly looked stupid would have been firing Miles and then hiring Will Muschamp. Which is the type of hire we would have settled for this year.
I can agree with this. If we didn't have Jimbo as a "done deal", then we needed to keep Les. We would have been done to go through a coaching search.
While y'all are busy googling, look up the Florida State records the several years before Jimbo was named head coach. Jimbo didn't follow 1990s Bobby Bowden, he followed 2000s Bobby Bowden.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:03 am to Tiger Voodoo
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How was OSU's record for the 12 years before Miles got there??
OH, You mean like Miles getting a team 2 years out of a Natty, and loaded with talent in 05.
On the other hand contrast that to what Saban walked into, and the record at LSU the 10 years before.
Miles is not close to a top tier coach.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:05 am to ironsides
The OP is saying we should have hired Tom Herman, right?
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:06 am to jrodLSUke
You do realize Houston is probably better than Texas Tech.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:07 am to ApexTiger
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I am referencing the contract deal with Chavis ultimately ticking him off enough to run to A$M, then not being able to hire Aranda last year and settling for Steele...
That's not setting him up to fail, it's a weird contract deal that, in the end, didn't really cost us that much. If anything, having Coach O (who could easily be a DC for a top 30 type program) as a positional coach is the definition of helping Les win.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:09 am to jrodLSUke
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No shite, right? Then he should Google Saban at MSU and get back to us when he gets a clue.
yeah right, because Saban is such a bad coach. what a dip shite you must be.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:15 am to cj2002
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yeah right, because Saban is such a bad coach. what a dip shite you must be.
Someone is so desperate to suck off Saban and bash Miles that they can't follow the talking points of the posters they are replying to.
I hope Miles stays here forever just to make people like you miserable.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:22 am to EZE Tiger Fan
To be honest there are some mercury-water drinkers on both extremes of this argument.
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:29 am to cj2002
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cj2002
One of the great things about lsu winning next season will be seeing how miserable it makes assholes like you because Les is the coach
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:30 am to ApexTiger
WRONG.... When Jimbo was contacted by LSU all he told them was he would talk about it after the season was over... LSU never contacted his agent.... Les Miles was calling Alleva to find out his status up until the aTm game... Alleva never returned Les Miles calls....so, Les Miles called LSU's bluff and told the media that it would be his last game coaching at LSU to apply pressure..... LSU board of Supervisors were on the phone with Alleva before and during the game discussing to keep Les Miles as coach.... They didn't want to lose out on either Miles Or Jimbo Fisher as their coach... Jimbo fisher was the ONLY coach the Board wanted.... There was NEVER ANY discussion about money with Fisher..it never went any further than that..... 

Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:30 am to cj2002
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cj2002
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Miles is not close to a top tier coach.
Quoted to prove your incredible stupidity beyond a reasonable doubt. Your hate has turned you into a moron (giving the benefit of the doubt that it has not always been that way).


MORON.
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:31 am to CPT Tiger
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Being that Jimbo probably would not have coached that game it really would not look that stupid.....
Wow. You have to being mentally retarded to actually have typed that
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:32 am to BeeFense5
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One of the great things about lsu winning next season will be seeing how miserable it makes assholes like you because Les is the coach
Dude is a fricking moron with no football IQ. Terrible "fan".
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:38 am to Jcorye1
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That's not setting him up to fail, it's a weird contract deal that, in the end, didn't really cost us that much. If anything, having Coach O (who could easily be a DC for a top 30 type program) as a positional coach is the definition of helping Les win.
I am just sharing my take, it's ok if people disagree.
Alleva was silent for weeks while Miles took a blood bath in the media "are you being fired, is this your last game in TS?"
If the AD supports you, he comes out and puts that crap to bed, right?
Do you concede that much at least? (That's not being helpful if you intend to help your coach succeed)
Did you see the Alleva post game conference? "he was not a happy camper"
We have a court battle going over Chavis Contract...
Last year, Chavis leaving left Miles sitting there with no plan...
Then Alleva puts a restriction of hiring the new DC...2 year versus 3 plus the Miles clause...
No, we settled for Steele... now that Miles has some leverage after Jimbogate, he is using it to get "his guy".
All the successful coaches today, get whatever the heck they want or feel they need. The AD is eager to be a yes man.. Alleva is working with an attitude " You have plenty already"
Alleva is/was battling Miles in part because so many boosters and TAF members are pressuring Alleva to do something about Miles, but for now Miles has another day to shine only because the Jimbo deal didn't happen.
If he loose 3 games this year, he will be gone probably on his own accord.
Tom Herman will be one of the top candidates...
I am on record as being one that wanted Jimbo badly because I feel the program is stale and needs some serious change to move forward.
If Miles can change and we can enjoy big victories, then I am all for Miles. I love Miles, I just hate his stubborn offense
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