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How LSU Baseball Coaches Have Finished Based on Postseason Expectation per Seed

Posted on 3/27/16 at 7:41 pm
Posted by JP_Tiger
BR
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 7:41 pm
Disclaimer: This focuses ONLY on the postseason. Obviously, the regular season matters overall because it dictates how we start the postseason. But this is taking a look at how we've done once we are put in our place. Do we over perform? Meet that expectation from the committee? Or underachieve?


Posted by arn
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 7:58 pm to
That looks like the same color red as stony brook's uniforms

Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 7:58 pm to
Post all the other postseason national seeds over the last 5 or 6 years and lets see how they compare
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87199 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:01 pm to
Why stick to national seeds? Overall it should be mixed around right? Teams do better than anticipated. Or worse. Or sometimes about where expected.

2011 pisses me off still, btw.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:02 pm to
I will fight you
Posted by arn
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:05 pm to
I respect my elders
Posted by JP_Tiger
BR
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:06 pm to
27 of 56 national seeds made the CWS in the last 7 years. So about half underachieve. More than that now that I think about it if one of the top 4 seeds didn't win a game. I didn't go back and look that closely. But that would mean 29 teams overachieved to get there. What's your point?
This post was edited on 3/27/16 at 8:09 pm
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:17 pm to
Well you didnt give us credit for just making it to omaha as a national seed. So its gonna be alot less than 27 meeting expectations
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:18 pm to
Bscause this is about lsu and we have been a national seed alot, and they have alot less margin for error when it comes to underachieving....all national seeds would as well.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:19 pm to
We went to the CWS last year and finished in the top 6 in the nation and people want PM gone. You've got to be kidding me.
Posted by arn
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by JP_Tiger
BR
Member since Apr 2015
474 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:24 pm to
A top 4 seed should win at least 1 game. A top 2 seed should win at least 2. I'm making the same assumption that the committee makes. A top seed should be able to go to Omaha and win something.

I edited my post and added that fewer would meet that expectation. But still many would meet theirs. Regional hosts who weren't seeds and lost in the super. They met expectations. If they make it to the CWS, they've done better than projected already.

I'm trying to be fair but you're not really convincing me that my Epectation column is off based on seed. I'm willing to change it though if you have any more arguments.
Posted by JP_Tiger
BR
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:24 pm to
Never said I wanted him gone.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:27 pm to
ThAt is what U get with Alleva
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87199 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

they have alot less margin for error when it comes to underachieving....all national seeds would as well.
Higher seeds come with high expectations. Seems like y'all are looking at it two different ways and you both bring up valid points. You are talking the likeliness of a national seed making it and winnings at all. And JP is just looking at results simply based on expectations. I can see how that could be skewed.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:29 pm to
Teams that are national seeds year after year are going to umderachieve alot more than teams that are just regional hosts is my point using your system. I understand the way you are doing it, and its meant to shed PM in a bad light. The correct way to do it is to compare his teams to other top 8 teams over the lst few years. Very few of the top 8 seeds will "meet" or go "over" expectations when you are the the #5 or #2 national seed.
This post was edited on 3/27/16 at 8:31 pm
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81967 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:32 pm to
Im sure vandy, florida, tcu, miami, virginia type of teams will go "under" as well
This post was edited on 3/27/16 at 8:35 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87199 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:35 pm to
I'm trying to wrap my head around the numbers. What you say makes sense. Half of the top 8 seeds don't make it. And there's no way for a 3 or 4 regional seed to go anywhere but up.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:38 pm to
Not only do half the national seeds actually make omaha usually, but if they have to win games there to meet expectations (top 6) and 2 wins for top 4 teams, that means likely only 1 or 2 national seeds a year will meet expectations
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87199 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:39 pm to
So 25% of national seeds meet expectations. 100% of regional 3 and 4 seeds meet expectations or better. And the percentage goes down as your position moves up... 1-2 seeds in regionals. Hosts.
This post was edited on 3/27/16 at 8:42 pm
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